HP. I am not happy about it but, I am not irritated nearly so much if I
just stick with them.



On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 2:55 AM, Paul Boniol <[email protected]> wrote:

> My recommendation depends on print volume, color/B&W, etc.
>
> I was stunned when HP turned to the same breakable printer as all the
> others, I was crushed when my IIIp died.  (And even when I was looking for
> high volume printers, HP was even worse than competitors for our needs.)
>  They started doing some funky things, and I consider them pretty much
> Lexmark equivalent, though as said, you can generally find more suppliers
> of toner, etc.  I have no recent experience.  Perhaps worth another look
> since it has been years...
>
> Home wired networked use, I definitely like my Brother B&W laser, Linux
> support, Post Script built in, never broken on me.  What's not to like?
>
> Canon, especially in the SOHO arena, has virtually non-existent Linux /
> PostScript support, no experience with their lasers.  (I like their inkjet
> results, 100 year ink, more accurate colors.  Just hate the lack of Linux
> support.)
>
> Work, we still pretty much have to buy Dell until you get out of the
> personal / very small workgroup B&W arena (because they give us a
> low/discount price).
>
> Large volume, the accountants have evidently crunched the numbers and come
> out that leasing from R J Young (with Vanderbilt discount) comes out better
> than buying.  (YMMV)  Generally Ricoh, but Xerox is a strong competitor in
> the large volume print arena.  Xerox is the way to go if you need the
> printer to track usage by user as it is built in (e.g. who printed 5000
> full color pages? When?).  Ricoh has PostScript as an add-on, Xerox it is
> native.  If you're in this arena, definitely get some sort of support
> agreement, especially fixing a Xerox without extended service agreement is
> REALLY expensive.  (Oki was a strong competitor back several years, but as
> far as I know RJY doesn't carry them, haven't had experience.)
>
> Perhaps goes without saying, but unfortunately, regardless of printer
> line, I don't really see the sturdiness (i.e. virtually non-breakable-ness)
> in anything recent like the old HP 3/4 series had, especially internally.
>  "We built it cheaper, lower cost means more sales over competitors, it
> will break sooner, then we can sell a new one more quickly" mentality seems
> to be everywhere these days. :-\
>
> Paul
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Howard White <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> We've all deployed umpteen gazillion printers over the years.
>>
>> I've gotten kinda bummed out on the market leader - HP.  The single digit
>> HP LaserJets were tanks (the LJ 4si/Mx was awesome) but the 4 digit units
>> have issues.  HP struggles to distinguish themselves from their own PCL by
>> layering on other crap.
>>
>> So what is your current recommendation for a monochrome, wired network
>> (not wifi) workgroup printer??  HP, Samsung, Canon, Brother (cough, cough),
>> Lexmark (the suggestion of which might get me shot here), Xerox.  The list
>> goes on and on.
>>
>> Not interested in multifunction.  Just more things to break.
>>
>> Howard
>>
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