The best use for blockchain technology right now is suckering venture
capitalists.

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 8:18 AM, Jack Coats <[email protected]> wrote:

> If you want a way to not allow 3rd parties to 'skim as much', as 3% off, I
> suggest getting a 'cash back' charge card.  Discover give 1% back plus 5%
> on 'special items' at different times of the year, ... Sams's Club card
> gives 1% on everything, 1.5% at restaurants, 3% on gas, pretty much
> everywhere (from Synchrony Bank?),  Fidelity Investments has 2% cash back
> if you use their services.  Others are out there, these are ones I know
> about off the top of my head (some details may vary from my reality).
>
> No, it does not 'cut them out', but it does get you some of your money
> back.
>
> It is a 80-20 solution as we all tilt for the 'no fee for anything'
> solution! <grin>
>
> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 10:23 PM, Csaba Toth <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I really want a digital currency where VISA or other third parties don't
>> skim 3% off (which is outrageous in my opinion, but that's what everyone
>> else settles, like PayPal, Stripe, Square, etc), and also privacy
>> preserving.
>> Putting everything out on a ledger for everyone to see is on one hand
>> beneficial for verification, but also makes privacy protection hard. That's
>> why the purse systems are so complex. Like you'd have to buy a new purse
>> every single time you make a purchase...
>> I don't see how Bitcoin can compete with wide spread payments systems as
>> it is now. The "mining" infrastructure consume unreasonable amount of
>> energy, the transactions take way too long, and as the demand spikes even
>> the transaction fees can be high, especially if someone wants the
>> transaction to execute in less than a few days (WTF!), or would like to buy
>> a lollipop for $3 value. I know we can monkey patch it and there are
>> multiple ways to make a Frankenstein which may work *somewhat* better
>> (multiple directions are in the making), but at least it gave enough
>> ammunition for the future currencies to correct pitfalls.
>>
>> Anyway, here is reading from the skeptic side which worth the time:
>> https://hackernoon.com/ten-years-in-nobody-has-come-up-with-
>> a-use-case-for-blockchain-ee98c180100
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 7:10 PM, Jack Coats <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Outside of cryptocurrencies, what are the other uses of blockchain
>>> technology?  Is this an area folks like us should look into?
>>> There is a lot of hype about it, but nothing more than folks
>>> regurgitating the name bitcoin as a mantra that I can find.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 8:50 PM, Howard White <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > Jack brings up and interesting point.  Many countries with
>>> instability, i.e.
>>> > Venezuela, Zimbabwe and others, the risk of Bitcoin is less than the
>>> risk of
>>> > the local currencies.  Something of a moral hazard in the bigger
>>> scheme of
>>> > things.
>>> >
>>> > Howard
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 01/27/2018 06:43 PM, Jack Coats wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> IMHO, if bitcoin is your base currency, it's value doesn't matter as
>>> >> much as if it is a secondary currency (which it is).   Most people
>>> >> deal with $$, Euro, pounds sterling, or whatever as their base
>>> >> currency, and 'trade' in other currencies (bitcoin, stocks, bonds,
>>> >> foreign currency, etc)
>>> >>
>>> >> When dealing with secondary currencies (bitcoin, stocks, bonds, gold
>>> >> bars, diamonds, foreign country currencies, or any other
>>> >> 'investment'), never 'bet more than you can afford to loose'.
>>> >>
>>> >> Just my thoughts.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ><> ... Jack
>>>
>>> The Four Boxes of Liberty - "There are four boxes to be used in the
>>> defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo. Please use in that
>>> order."
>>> "Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart"... Colossians 3:23
>>> "Anyone who has never made a mistake, has never tried anything new." -
>>> Albert Einstein
>>> "You don't manage people; you manage things. You lead people." -
>>> Admiral Grace Hopper, USN
>>> "The most dangerous phrase in the language is "We’ve always done it
>>> this way"-- Admiral Grace Hopper, USN
>>> "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I
>>> learn." - Ben Franklin
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> ><> ... Jack
>
> The Four Boxes of Liberty - "There are four boxes to be used in the
> defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo. Please use in that order."
> "Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart"... Colossians 3:23
> "Anyone who has never made a mistake, has never tried anything new." -
> Albert Einstein
> "You don't manage people; you manage things. You lead people." - Admiral
> Grace Hopper, USN
> "The most dangerous phrase in the language is "We’ve always done it this
> way"-- Admiral Grace Hopper, USN
> "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." -
> Ben Franklin
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