yeah, in 2018 this should be dockerized and then he can roll from vendor to vendor that supports docker (all the good ones should by now).
On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Tilghman Lesher <[email protected]> wrote: > I can't answer all of those questions, but as he's using Joomla, I do > know that the requirements are roughly like Wordpress: writable > files, so it can be upgraded on the fly, with a MySQL database. > Trying to do anything else requires a firm understanding of the > internals of Joomla, and I'd say he's not prepared to do that. > > If you have the time to abstract out a site, AWS can absolutely be > cheaper than a conventional VPS. However, most people don't have the > knowledge or the time to learn, and they'd rather just go for the > conventional to meet their needs. Also, there's an implicit danger of > adopting a single-vendor strategy, which is that the vendor could > increase their prices in the future, and if you're not prepared to > reevaluate the platform, you could be stuck with whatever that vendor > chooses to charge. With a conventional VPS running Linux, moving can > be as simple as taking a dump of the database, restoring elsewhere, > and updating DNS. > > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 9:37 AM, Tim O'Guin <[email protected]> wrote: > > This really depends on the needs of the site. Is it a static site? Does > it > > need a database? Does it persist data on the filesystem, or is it > stateless? > > Is the traffic infrequent and/or spiky? Do you need to be able to > monitor it > > with tooling from the cloud provider? Is uptime paramount, or can you > afford > > to turn it off at times to safe money? What about memory and CPU > > requirements? > > > > Smaller providers aren't necessarily cheaper than AWS. There are many > ways > > to optimize those costs in AWS, and you could easily get comparable > pricing > > to something like DigitalOcean just by planning ahead and reserving your > > instance usage. You can pay for 1-year or 3-year reservations and save > up to > > 60% over the higher on-demand pricing. > > > > You'd probably be looking at a bit of a learning curve, but learning AWS > > might be a benefit in itself. > > > > > > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 9:06 AM Gibson Prichard <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> I second Tilghman - lowendbox.com is a useful referral site. I found > >> WootHosting there and have two inexpensive VPS hosts from them. Their > tech > >> support is quick, but I would be hesitant to wholeheartedly recommend > >> WootHosting because of performance issues, likely resulting from > overselling > >> a physical host. That being said, for around $25 a year, you can get a > >> server to test and play with. It might make a nice failover or test-bed > >> site. > >> > >> Gibson Prichard > >> Nashville, TN > >> [email protected] > >> > >> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 7:55 AM, Tilghman Lesher <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> This is my go-to for hosting providers. https://lowendbox.com/ Note > >>> that this is not a service, in itself, but rather a blog with listings > >>> of many other (small) providers. Their pricing is generally a lot > >>> better than some of the mainstream providers. > >>> > >>> My current favorite is VPS Dime, but if I need something > >>> international, I go back to the source to find other providers. > >>> > >>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 9:03 PM, Bucky Wolfe <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > Running a webserver on bare metal is pretty nutty in 2018 (unless > >>> > you're > >>> > getting thousands of requests per second). There are actually a lot > of > >>> > downsides to what you're doing, particularly: you have a single point > >>> > of > >>> > failure (in both the lone dedicated server and the single region it's > >>> > located in), you're probably not even coming close to fully utilizing > >>> > the > >>> > box, and could be paying 5-10x what you'd be paying if you had built > >>> > something on a budget cloud provider. The question should probably be > >>> > more > >>> > about what your requirements are for the cloud service you choose, > >>> > rather > >>> > than *if* you should be using it. > >>> > > >>> > If you're looking for suggestions: Vultr and DigitalOcean are > probably > >>> > the > >>> > two best budget IaaS providers out there, I'd suggest auditing them > >>> > both and > >>> > making your comparison against rackspace's cloud offering. If you > have > >>> > a ton > >>> > of money to throw around, obviously AWS and GCP are more than > adequate, > >>> > but > >>> > you get a lot more bang for your buck with the little(r) guys. Also, > if > >>> > you'd rather be more hands off with the maintenance of your > >>> > infrastructure, > >>> > you could outsource that and look into using a PaaS like Heroku. > >>> > > >>> > Cheers, > >>> > Bucky > >>> > > >>> > Best, > >>> > Bucky Wolfe > >>> > > >>> > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 8:36 PM, Michael L <[email protected] > > > >>> > wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> I have to make a decision soon on whether to continue running our > >>> >> website > >>> >> on a managed dedicated server (with firewall) or hosting our site in > >>> >> the > >>> >> cloud. > >>> >> > >>> >> Can anyone point me in the direction of a solution and/or tell me > >>> >> pitfalls > >>> >> to avoid? If I understood correctly, one thing Rackspace told me is > >>> >> that a > >>> >> cloud software firewall is something they can't offer now because > of a > >>> >> software acquisition making it no longer available. > >>> >> > >>> >> Thanks for any help. > >>> >> M > >>> >> > >>> >> -- > >>> >> -- > >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>> >> Groups > >>> >> "NLUG" group. > >>> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > >>> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> >> [email protected] > >>> >> For more options, visit this group at > >>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en > >>> >> > >>> >> --- > >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>> >> Groups > >>> >> "NLUG" group. > >>> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send > >>> >> an > >>> >> email to [email protected]. > >>> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > -- > >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>> > Groups > >>> > "NLUG" group. > >>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > >>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> > [email protected] > >>> > For more options, visit this group at > >>> > http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en > >>> > > >>> > --- > >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>> > Groups > >>> > "NLUG" group. > >>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send > >>> > an > >>> > email to [email protected]. > >>> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Tilghman > >>> > >>> -- > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >>> "NLUG" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> [email protected] > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en > >>> > >>> --- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >>> "NLUG" group. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > >>> email to [email protected]. > >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "NLUG" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected] > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en > >> > >> --- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "NLUG" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > >> email to [email protected]. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "NLUG" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected] > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en > > > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "NLUG" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [email protected]. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > Tilghman > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NLUG" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscribe@ > googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ > group/nlug-talk?hl=en > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NLUG" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. 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