I should go ahead and say that our large amount of audio and video is being made available mostly via YouTube and Vimeo and Amazon S3, so as far as the site is concerned it just needs to handle traffic and linking visitors to the content. Aside from a video player everything else on the site is static content (per my understanding of static web pages).
On Thu, May 10, 2018, 19:08 Michael L <[email protected]> wrote: > The site will probably forever be low traffic. The only "demanding" thing > is that we are trying to offer up 6000 + hours of video and audio. > > I will in the future definitely want to know about how to containerize the > site. I suppose that will be another topic for another time. I've been > attending the Nashville Kubernetes meetings and found them to be > informative. Digital ocean is planning to offer Kubernetes support soon. > > On Thu, May 10, 2018, 18:58 Alex Smith (K4RNT) <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Another option for a cloud solution might be Scaleway. They are a >> smaller cloud company, but they are featuring ARM64-based servers in their >> Paris data center cluster. I've been pretty happy with them, although I've >> had the luck of having a bad route to them the first time I fired up an >> instance, but they have nodes in Paris and Amsterdam. >> >> www.scaleway.com >> >> [image: Mailtrack] >> <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality4&;> >> Sender >> notified by >> Mailtrack >> <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality4&;> >> >> " 'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, >> the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all >> irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and >> warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we’re all >> damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG >> episode "The Drumhead" >> - Alex Smith >> - Kent, Washington (metropolitan Seattle area) >> >> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Michael L <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Without NLUG I would either have sunk or been at wit's end a long time >>> ago, so I hope this group keeps going. >>> >>> I guess I better keep learning as much about Linux as I can. My main >>> function is producing and uploading the video. These IT and web >>> responsibilities are only in my lap because no one else here can do it, so >>> I go to every tech meet up possible. >>> >>> On Thu, May 10, 2018, 10:31 andrew mcelroy <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> yeah, in 2018 this should be dockerized and then he can roll from >>>> vendor to vendor that supports docker (all the good ones should by now). >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Tilghman Lesher <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I can't answer all of those questions, but as he's using Joomla, I do >>>>> know that the requirements are roughly like Wordpress: writable >>>>> files, so it can be upgraded on the fly, with a MySQL database. >>>>> Trying to do anything else requires a firm understanding of the >>>>> internals of Joomla, and I'd say he's not prepared to do that. >>>>> >>>>> If you have the time to abstract out a site, AWS can absolutely be >>>>> cheaper than a conventional VPS. However, most people don't have the >>>>> knowledge or the time to learn, and they'd rather just go for the >>>>> conventional to meet their needs. Also, there's an implicit danger of >>>>> adopting a single-vendor strategy, which is that the vendor could >>>>> increase their prices in the future, and if you're not prepared to >>>>> reevaluate the platform, you could be stuck with whatever that vendor >>>>> chooses to charge. With a conventional VPS running Linux, moving can >>>>> be as simple as taking a dump of the database, restoring elsewhere, >>>>> and updating DNS. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 9:37 AM, Tim O'Guin <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > This really depends on the needs of the site. Is it a static site? >>>>> Does it >>>>> > need a database? Does it persist data on the filesystem, or is it >>>>> stateless? >>>>> > Is the traffic infrequent and/or spiky? Do you need to be able to >>>>> monitor it >>>>> > with tooling from the cloud provider? Is uptime paramount, or can >>>>> you afford >>>>> > to turn it off at times to safe money? What about memory and CPU >>>>> > requirements? >>>>> > >>>>> > Smaller providers aren't necessarily cheaper than AWS. There are >>>>> many ways >>>>> > to optimize those costs in AWS, and you could easily get comparable >>>>> pricing >>>>> > to something like DigitalOcean just by planning ahead and reserving >>>>> your >>>>> > instance usage. You can pay for 1-year or 3-year reservations and >>>>> save up to >>>>> > 60% over the higher on-demand pricing. >>>>> > >>>>> > You'd probably be looking at a bit of a learning curve, but learning >>>>> AWS >>>>> > might be a benefit in itself. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 9:06 AM Gibson Prichard <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I second Tilghman - lowendbox.com is a useful referral site. I >>>>> found >>>>> >> WootHosting there and have two inexpensive VPS hosts from them. >>>>> Their tech >>>>> >> support is quick, but I would be hesitant to wholeheartedly >>>>> recommend >>>>> >> WootHosting because of performance issues, likely resulting from >>>>> overselling >>>>> >> a physical host. That being said, for around $25 a year, you can >>>>> get a >>>>> >> server to test and play with. It might make a nice failover or >>>>> test-bed >>>>> >> site. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Gibson Prichard >>>>> >> Nashville, TN >>>>> >> [email protected] >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 7:55 AM, Tilghman Lesher < >>>>> [email protected]> >>>>> >> wrote: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> This is my go-to for hosting providers. https://lowendbox.com/ >>>>> Note >>>>> >>> that this is not a service, in itself, but rather a blog with >>>>> listings >>>>> >>> of many other (small) providers. Their pricing is generally a lot >>>>> >>> better than some of the mainstream providers. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> My current favorite is VPS Dime, but if I need something >>>>> >>> international, I go back to the source to find other providers. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 9:03 PM, Bucky Wolfe <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>> > Running a webserver on bare metal is pretty nutty in 2018 (unless >>>>> >>> > you're >>>>> >>> > getting thousands of requests per second). There are actually a >>>>> lot of >>>>> >>> > downsides to what you're doing, particularly: you have a single >>>>> point >>>>> >>> > of >>>>> >>> > failure (in both the lone dedicated server and the single region >>>>> it's >>>>> >>> > located in), you're probably not even coming close to fully >>>>> utilizing >>>>> >>> > the >>>>> >>> > box, and could be paying 5-10x what you'd be paying if you had >>>>> built >>>>> >>> > something on a budget cloud provider. The question should >>>>> probably be >>>>> >>> > more >>>>> >>> > about what your requirements are for the cloud service you >>>>> choose, >>>>> >>> > rather >>>>> >>> > than *if* you should be using it. >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > If you're looking for suggestions: Vultr and DigitalOcean are >>>>> probably >>>>> >>> > the >>>>> >>> > two best budget IaaS providers out there, I'd suggest auditing >>>>> them >>>>> >>> > both and >>>>> >>> > making your comparison against rackspace's cloud offering. If >>>>> you have >>>>> >>> > a ton >>>>> >>> > of money to throw around, obviously AWS and GCP are more than >>>>> adequate, >>>>> >>> > but >>>>> >>> > you get a lot more bang for your buck with the little(r) guys. >>>>> Also, if >>>>> >>> > you'd rather be more hands off with the maintenance of your >>>>> >>> > infrastructure, >>>>> >>> > you could outsource that and look into using a PaaS like Heroku. >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > Cheers, >>>>> >>> > Bucky >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > Best, >>>>> >>> > Bucky Wolfe >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 8:36 PM, Michael L < >>>>> [email protected]> >>>>> >>> > wrote: >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> I have to make a decision soon on whether to continue running >>>>> our >>>>> >>> >> website >>>>> >>> >> on a managed dedicated server (with firewall) or hosting our >>>>> site in >>>>> >>> >> the >>>>> >>> >> cloud. >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> Can anyone point me in the direction of a solution and/or tell >>>>> me >>>>> >>> >> pitfalls >>>>> >>> >> to avoid? 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