Bob,
Thanks for pointing out that one cannot use NONMEM to describe the
Cauchy distribution. Presumably this explains why we dont seem to have
many physicists on nmusers :-). The normal assumption for NONMEM
simulation seems to be well accepted so no simulated spectral lines I'm
afraid.
However, can you (or anyone) else point out precisely if NONMEM makes
an assumption of normality in its estimation procedure (the answer will
presumably depend on which estimation method is chosen) ?
Juergen suggested the MCPEM flavour of EM requires a normal assumption
for the estimation. But what about SAEM, FOCE, BAYES, etc.?
Nick
Bob Leary wrote:
Nick -
a slight correction. Not all distributions have a variance - the most
familiar and important example
is the Cauchy distribution (1/pi) *1/(1+x^2) - the variance integral
is infinite.
This is actually a significant distribution in physics,
representing the shape of certain spectral
lines. It is also related to the Poisson kernel in solving Laplace
equations.
Bob
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From:* [email protected] [[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Nick Holford [[email protected]]
*Sent:* Friday, May 28, 2010 2:50 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [NMusers] distribution assumption of Eta in NONMEM
For estimation NONMEM estimates one parameter to describe the
distribution of random effects -- this is the variance (OMEGA) of the
distribution. Thus it makes no explicit assumption that the
distribution is normal. AFAIK any distribution has a variance.
For simulation NONMEM assumes all etas are normally distributed. If
you use OMEGA BLOCK(*) then the distribution is multivariate with
covariances but still normal.
Nick
Ethan Wu wrote:
I could not find in the NONMEM help guide that explicitly mentioned a
normal distribution is assumed, only it was clearly mentioned of
assumption of mean of zero.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From:* Serge Guzy <[email protected]>
*To:* Ethan Wu <[email protected]>; [email protected]
*Sent:* Fri, May 28, 2010 1:25:24 PM
*Subject:* RE: [NMusers] distribution assumption of Eta in NONMEM
As far as I know, this is the assumption in most of the population
programs like NONMEM, SADAPT, PDX-MC-PEM and SAEM. Therefore when you
simulate, random values from a normal distribution are generated.
However, you have the flexibility to use any transformation to create
distributions for your model parameters that will depart from pure
normality. For example, CL=theta(1)*exp(eta(1)) will generate a
log-normal distribution for the clearance although the random
deviates are all from the normal distribution.
I am not sure how you can simulate data sets if you are using the non
parametric option that is indeed available in NONMEM.
Serge Guzy; Ph.D
President, CEO, POP_PHARM
www.poppharm.com <http://www.poppharm.com/>
*From:* [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ethan Wu
*Sent:* Friday, May 28, 2010 9:08 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* [NMusers] distribution assumption of Eta in NONMEM
Dear users,
Is it true NONMEM dose not assume Eta a normal distribution?
If it does not, I wonder what distribution it assumes? I guess this
is critical when we do simulations.
Thanks
------------------------------------------------------------------------
The information contained in this email message may contain
confidential or legally privileged information and is intended solely
for the use of the named recipient(s). No confidentiality or
privilege is waived or lost by any transmission error. If the reader
of this message is not the intended recipient, please immediately
delete the e-mail and all copies of it from your system, destroy any
hard copies of it and notify the sender either by telephone or return
e-mail. Any direct or indirect use, disclosure, distribution,
printing, or copying of any part of this message is prohibited. Any
views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender,
except where the message states otherwise and the sender is
authorized to state them to be the views of XOMA.
--
Nick Holford, Professor Clinical Pharmacology
Dept Pharmacology & Clinical Pharmacology
University of Auckland,85 Park Rd,Private Bag 92019,Auckland,New Zealand
tel:+64(9)923-6730 fax:+64(9)373-7090 mobile:+64(21)46 23 53
email: [email protected]
http://www.fmhs.auckland.ac.nz/sms/pharmacology/holford
_________________________________________________________________
NOTICE: The information contained in this electronic mail message is intended
only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named
above. This message may be an attorney-client communication, may be protected
by the work product doctrine, and may be subject to a protective order. As
such, this message is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this
message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it
to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this
message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying
of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication
in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and e-mail and destroy any
and all copies of this message in your possession (whether hard copies or
electronically stored copies). Thank you.
--
Nick Holford, Professor Clinical Pharmacology
Dept Pharmacology & Clinical Pharmacology
University of Auckland,85 Park Rd,Private Bag 92019,Auckland,New Zealand
tel:+64(9)923-6730 fax:+64(9)373-7090 mobile:+64(21)46 23 53
email: [email protected]
http://www.fmhs.auckland.ac.nz/sms/pharmacology/holford