Chris,

Great question--I'm sure it will generate some discussion.

I do both.  I also take a different approach to my Savings account, as  
well, than that officially prescribed--I don't think it's important  
that the buckets by "synced" with their respective accounts.  I  
explain why, considering the current relationship between Credit  
Cards, Checking, and Cash)

Consider for a moment how your checking and credit card interact  
within MoneyWell--I'll assume you have a credit card with which you  
make many purchases that you pay off every month.  The money spent or  
available in your buckets can normally be spent by either your credit  
card or your checking account.  Where the money is actually located,  
or how it was spent, is transparent to you.  If you spent $500 on  
groceries last month, as long as that was all that you had planned to  
spend, it makes little difference as to whether you used funds in your  
checking account or charged your credit card, or a combination, to  
make the purchase.  When you stay below your planned amount, which is  
based on your income deposited into your checking account, you can be  
guaranteed that you'll have enough to pay off your credit card each  
month if you didn't spend more than you allowed in your buckets.

You might add a Cash account to the above duet, making a triad of  
accounts that equally account for all the money in your buckets.   
Along with this, I add one Savings account.

Therefore, in my setup, all the money that I have assigned to buckets  
can be found somewhere between Savings, Checking, Credit Card, or a  
Cash account.  It matters very little to me where my grocery money is  
"stored."  If my checking account gets low, I can transfer funds from  
Savings to cover.  My bank will also automatically draft my Savings  
account if I overdraw Checking for no charge.  If I don't have enough  
money in Checking to pay my Credit card, I'll move that money from  
Savings to Checking first.

In this way, I treat Savings as a bucket and allow it to accumulate  
over time.  I don't have to worry about "spending" it and moving it  
when I transfer money to/from Savings.  I know approximately how much  
money I need in Checking every month to cover immediate bills, and  
then I move the rest to Savings.

On the other hand, I treat long-term investments differently.  For  
these accounts, I include the amount I intend to invest in my Spending  
Plan.  Each month, I spend money from the Investments bucket as a  
transfer from Checking (but it could also be from Savings, or Cash,  
or, if allowed, Credit Card) to my Investment account, which I also  
have in my MoneyWell document.

Some have suggested tying buckets to accounts (so that you could  
allocate different kinds of Savings within your Savings account), but  
to me this unnecessarily complicates the document, and I would not use  
such a feature it were made available.  We don't use this approach  
when it comes to the interaction between Checking, Credit and Cash.   
Furthermore, having a fluid relationship between Savings and Checking  
provides a great way to earn interest income.  Consider the $600  
insurance payment that is due at the end of the month and you get paid  
at the beginning of each month.  Suppose your Savings account earns  
APY 5%.  If you kept this $600 in Checking in order to pay the bill,  
you'd lose $36 per year.  Instead, if you took short-term bills like  
this and moved them to Savings, then back to checking for the payment,  
you can earn interest on your money.  Another example is your credit  
card payment with its 30-day grace period.  Suppose you have $2000 of  
credit card charges throughout a month.  Since you have 30-days to pay  
for these charges before incurring a Finance Charge, the money that  
you'll use to pay your credit card every month can sit in Savings for  
the month until you need to pay your bill, yielding as much as $100.

Hope this makes sense.

Blair

On Dec 23, 2008, at 12:05 PM, Chris Larson wrote:

>
> I'm curious about the way people go about handling their savings in
> MoneyWell.  I'm thinking one could either let the money build up in a
> bucket, or they could allocate income for what they plan on saving
> that month to it, but then "spend" it when moving it into the savings
> account, leaving the bucket balance at 0 at the end of the month.
> I've been taking the latter route lately, just because it can be a
> pain dealing with the former if it ever becomes desynced with the
> actual contents of the savings account(s).  What method do people
> prefer, generally?  The problem I see with "spending" the savings when
> moving it into the account, is trying to remember which accounts have
> money which is available to spend in the bucket balances, and which
> are "spent" and need to become income again if you want to spend it.
> -- 
> Chris Larson
> clarson at kergoth dot com
> clarson at mvista dot com
> Founder - BitBake, OpenEmbedded, OpenZaurus
> Maintainer - Tslib
> Software Engineer
> MontaVista Software, Inc.
>
> >


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