Spiral, maybe I'm not understanding your predicament but I think you  
might be making it more complicated for yourself. i.e. Every month the  
bank credits me with my salary. That goes into the income bucket. When  
I pay a credit card payment, I don't use transfers, (but then again, I  
don't download credit card statements as I'm trying to pay them off).  
When I make a cc payment, I'm in my regular checking account. When I  
have the bank download for that account, and find a cc payment, I make  
the Payee the credit card name, the type is "withdrawal," the bucket  
is "Debt Repayment" and then a Memo if I use it for that account. That  
amount comes out of what I have budgeted for debt repayment, out of  
that bucket and its total goes down. Perhaps if you try using  
Transactions rather than transfers/dragging, it'll make more sense.  
I'm not planning to use the transfer ability until I have a better  
handle on the basics. I hope I'm making sense.

Karen
On 1-Jan-09, at 5:10 PM, SpiralOcean wrote:

>
> Checking $400
> Credit Card -$100
> Salary $200
>
> So you are saying,
> to pay off a balance on a credit card:
> Create a transfer from checking to credit card (I dragged checking to
> credit card).
> Checking $300
> Credit Card $0
> Salary $200
>
> Go to the Checking Account, look for the transfer, drag it to a bucket
> called Credit Card Balance Payment.
> Checking $300
> Credit Card $0
> Salary $200
> Credit Card Balance Payment Bucket $-100
>
> Go to the Salary income, drag it to the Credit Card Balance Payment to
> pay out of my salary so that the Credit Card balance Payment has a $0
> balance.
> Checking $300
> Credit Card $0
> Salary $100
> Credit Card Balance Payment Bucket $0
>
> This gave me the correct amount.
>
> There are a lot of steps there, and it concerns me that I may forget
> to do something and not know that I have less money in my checking
> account than I thought I did.
>
> If transfers should always be flowed from the outgoing payment, a
> suggestion is to show the outgoing transfer as 1 transaction in the
> Unassigned smart bucket.  This would help me remember that I need to
> do something with that transfer, otherwise my money may be off.
>
> Thank you for the assistance.
>
> On Jan 1, 12:06 pm, Kevin Hoctor <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Jan 1, 2009, at 12:26 PM, SpiralOcean wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Just set up new accounts today.  A checking and a credit card.
>>
>>> I put in an initial balance in the checking and credit card.  For
>>> example purpose:
>>> Checking $400
>>> Credit Card $100
>>
>>> I took my initial starting balance in my checking account and placed
>>> it into the income bucket of salary.
>>> Salary $400
>>
>>> I created buckets, assigned monthly allocations, and flowed the  
>>> cash.
>>> The amount of money in the Salary bucket went down as expected:
>>> Salary $200.
>>
>>> Checking $400
>>> Credit Card $100
>>> Salary $200
>>
>>> I paid off my credit card by dragging from my checking into the  
>>> credit
>>> card:
>>
>>> Checking $300
>>> Credit Card $100
>>> Salary $200
>>
>>> This is a bit scary to me because my Salary staid the same.  But I
>>> should have $100 left to allocate in the Salary?
>>
>>> I went to the transfer smart bucket, and dragged that transfer to my
>>> salary bucket and the salary bucket went down by $100.  But only  
>>> if I
>>> dragged the transfer from my checking account.  If I dragged the
>>> transfer from my credit card account then my salary went up $100.
>>
>>> This is scary to me because I don't feel I can trust how much  
>>> money is
>>> in the salary bucket to allocate?
>>
>>> Is there something I did wrong here?
>>
>> If you have a balance on your credit card that you are paying off,  
>> you
>> should use a bucket like "Debt Repayment" and flow your outgoing
>> payment (transfer) through that. This way you'll have to flow money
>> from your Salary bucket to that expense bucket.
>>
>> If you purchase something on the credit card and that purchase gets
>> assigned to a bucket and you have filled that bucket with money from
>> the Salary bucket, then your payment (transfer) doesn't need to be
>> assigned to any outgoing bucket because you are just moving money  
>> from
>> one account to another and the categorizing of that payment was done
>> with the purchase.
>>
>> So in summary:
>>   1. Payments on credit cards for existing balances need to be
>> assigned to an expense bucket because they are not for a current
>> purchase, whereas…
>>
>>   2. Payments on credit cards for current purchases do not need a
>> bucket assignment because the purchase is tracking the cash flow.
>>
>> Peace,
>>
>> Kevin Hoctor
>> [email protected]
>> No Thirst Software LLChttp://nothirst.comhttp:// 
>> kevinhoctor.blogspot.com
> >


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