Thank you for this wonderful example of hate-speech that has to stop ASAP. You too don't seem to understand e.g. that solutions like streamline *ARE* async. I was been advertised when looking around for solutions that node has a very friendly, practice oriented community. Where is that now? Now its hate speech that tells you "die a quiet lonely death in the corner". This has to stop, otherwise node itself will get that fate itself. Ryan himself as made promises and wait() back that day. So wasn't he aware of the "fundamental philosophy?" He was just trying to find something that works. Okay, that implementation didn't work out, so node switched over to callbacks, because they worked better. Now where did the evangelists come in, and tell you "do die a lonely death" because others have found more solutions to an issue which has not been perfectly solved, not for all use cases. When did something that was a practical solution become a gospel?
I'm too tired by people arguing with usage statistics. So what? Isn't node itself a vocal minority? Pulling numbers from thin air, aren't the majority of installations still Apache-MySQL-PHP? Since when is a simple majority an argument about how useful and (un)cool something is? Quadrillions of flies eat dung, so should we too? Oh and please look up on Google what "FUD" means, you seem just to have picked that word up, without realizing its real meaning. Just to repeat myself, this kind of hating hurts node big time, regardless if you are on the "pure callbacks" or "heterodox solutions" team. As Bruno writes on his blog, Node is a platform like Linux is one, and while pure C/C++/Objective-C/etc. people are still disagreeing what the bests tool is, and could argue for lifetimes about that, they live happily together on top of Linux, which is itself pure C. Yet the kernel team does not object, or wish you to die in a lonely corner, if you use C++ on top of it. On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:24 AM, billywhizz <[email protected]> wrote: > Axel, while nobody has explicitly stated that streamline.js is for everyone > it seems that every time someone asks a question about control flow and > nesting a streamline fanatic jumps on the thread and puts it forward as the > solution to everything. Maybe you guys just don't realise how bloody > annoying that is and how much confusion it must lead to for new users. the > biggest problem the "haters" have with the library is it works completely > against the rationale for node.js. i don't know how many times it has been > stated by the node.js team that node.js is all about async and callbacks and > is fundamentally tied to the way javascript does things. however much you > might like streamline.js it will always remain something of an experiment > and a hack. while it is an impressive feat of mental gymnastics i'm afraid i > couldn't call it a brilliant piece of engineering as it's going too much > against the grain of the platform it is built on and is massively over > complicated. > > my suggestion for the node.js community would be just to ignore any future > comments like this as these thread-wars only draw disproportionate attention > to what will always be a niche product. would be much better to let it die a > quiet lonely death in the corner. this is the last time i will be commenting > on it as i'm really really tired of hearing all this FUD. > > > On Sunday, April 15, 2012 5:26:34 PM UTC+1, Axel Kittenberger wrote: >> >> > I think streamline is a brilliant piece of engineering and I'm sure >> > there >> > are people who really benefit from such a tool. Just understand it's >> > not >> > for everyone. >> >> Has anyone ever stated that is is for everyone? If we just could agree >> with the haters (you know whom I mean) that it a useful tool for some >> applications. That would be a great accomplishment we could all cool >> down on. > > -- > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ > Posting guidelines: > https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "nodejs" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en -- Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ Posting guidelines: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "nodejs" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en
