nice folks good, very good

but => Stewart Mckinney can you explain below two sentences in more deep
Please

 Stick to Node.js for now, but I suggest learning Ruby at some point. It's
> not going anywhere - it's certainly not the "Next Java". (cringe) I think
> you will end up seeing them used more and more together than separately in
> the future. Monoliths will die!



On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Stewart Mckinney <[email protected]>wrote:

> I wouldn't say you end up with "less useful" knowledge in Rails. There are
> a lot of good patterns in the internals, which you will end up reading at
> some point. The knowledge about Rails' conventions is somewhat situational
> but even then you can apply similar concepts to Node applications , such as
> having sensible directory structures that are "fractal" in nature.
>
> The MVC criticism is just - it is outdated and ham-fisted for the majority
> of client side apps -  but ultimately you will probably have one part of
> your system that DOES conform to MVC weather you like it or not ( usually
> your administrative section ), and this will happen no matter
> which programming environment you use. Whether or not you deal with it at
> that level of abstraction is entirely your choice.
>
> RoR also doesn't force a lot of the app to be on the server; that's
> completely up to you. I'm just now finishing a project that uses Rails,
> Backbone.js (a lot of code is there) and Node. Mostly Rails for the
> administrative stuff, because its so much easier to make rapid changes with.
>
> Stick to Node.js for now, but I suggest learning Ruby at some point. It's
> not going anywhere - it's certainly not the "Next Java". (cringe) I think
> you will end up seeing them used more and more together than separately in
> the future. Monoliths will die!
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Mark Hahn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> You must be prepared for some hard work.  The concepts needed to
>> effectively use javascript for node can be complex, especially asynchronous
>> callbacks and closures.
>>
>> I personally feel ROR is also hard and you end up with a lot less useful
>> knowledge.  ROR is limited to its MVC concept (which is outdated) and node
>> allows you to use any model, now or in the future.  ROR forces a lot of the
>> app on the server where node can allow any mix of server and client code.
>>  My current app has more code in the client than in the server.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:17 AM, ANIKET KADAM 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> please people comment on this post so i can get more idea.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:45 PM, ANIKET KADAM <[email protected]
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> thanks all the people
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:42 PM, MikeB_2012 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm coming from a decade plus of strictly programming in Matlab.  I
>>>>> spent a bit of time looking for a 'real', less expensive programming
>>>>> language.  Javascript isn't perfect but it is fast, readable, and gives 
>>>>> you
>>>>> access to the modern world of programming (client-sever vice standalone
>>>>> machine, browsers vice specialised gui's, emphasis on working with
>>>>> text-based data vice pure number crunching).  So I've gone with
>>>>> javascript/nodejs/couchdb(via cradle).  It isn't hard, there will be a lot
>>>>> of slap-the-forehead (see a recent post of mine), but there is such a
>>>>> wealth of possibilities all wrapped up in a single language that it's hard
>>>>> to see why you wouldn't go with javascript/nodejs.
>>>>>
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