On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:30:07 PM UTC-4, Mikeal Rogers wrote: > > On Sep 19, 2012, at September 19, 20123:21 PM, rektide < > [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > > > >> > I humbly propose not participating in things which annoy you or you >> find overly distracting. >> > > Mikeal was complaining about nothing except people discussing things, > about feeling hurt for others talking. He deserves counter-meta-moderation, > and there should be no problems with that. I unequivocally renounce any > charge of trolling or inappropriateness on this front. > > > I take issue with these discussions because they make the list a place for > your favorite arguments and alienate people from asking real questions > about problems they have using node.js. Of the last 100 messages to the > list less than 10% are about real user problems. >
Who here has been alienated anyone? Aside from you trying to shut me down Mikeal? Link me, anyone. You don't have to be trolling to be alienating and counterproductive, which > is what i charge this conversation with. > I certainly gained a lot more knowledge about threading than when I asked for an explanation in February of why Isolates was being cancelled. It may not lead to directly useful things for everyone, here, now but it's part of a wider dialectic, and I charge all civilized people with the responsibility to engage or at least be willing to permit dialectics to happen. I want to learn, I have learned: things were gained. Please deny that. > You're also ignoring the main point Isaac has been trying to make this > whole time: ***that this is not how you engage with the node.js project > if you want to get something in to core.*** > My main point is that this is a mailing list for discussion. 5% of topics are about node core. Should I show up in all them and tell them, on behalf of Mikeal, stfu, you're damaging our community? Would you like that? If not, just gtfo out of a useful constructive thread we're trying to have for interested parties on prospective ways of making Node core better: we're certainly closer to home than 95% of this mailing list. Do you deny that? > Isaac has reiterated over and over again what you would need to do to make > this productive and nobody has followed up. It appears that you prefer to > have a discussion that will bear no fruit other than satisfying your own > intellectual curiosity at the expense of others. > I dunno. This is getting dangerously close to being technically topical: I for one have already challenged this thread that there is not much information on the failure of isolates, on where multi-threading has gone awry, and I hereby BEG you to find me some good juicy meat on why. I did try searching, I said that, and I already said this thread provided me a lot more background than I ever knew before. And still, in spite of you insisting we all respectfully STFU, I get fantastic new answers such as Paddy Byers contributing really detailed info we've, best I can tell, never had before. I really really want to just be quiet about the last proposition, say nothing about it. 'satisfying your own intellectual curiosity at the expense of others'? You really think A) I expect satisfaction, or B) there's an expense here? Don't we have the faculty to not get dragged down by this if we're not interested? How much time am I or anyone else demanding of anyone? I'm sorry Mikeal: again, pass the hemlock: not only are you persecuting a victimless crime, now you're actually accusing me of being bad for trying to raise questions. What gives Isaac hives is the endless conversations you engage in on this > list without any intention of actually creating any of the change you > advocate for or taking any measurable steps to do so. Sending emails to a > mailing list is not how things get done in this project, if you aren't > willing to accept than then you'll need to find a new project to email your > ideas to. > And again I repeat the stance I issued you last: you and Isaac need to, for your own and everyone elses sakes, find ways to disengage and: Lighten up people Could not be an easier thing to deal with. Not sure why you're making it so hard. -- Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ Posting guidelines: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "nodejs" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en
