On Sunday, September 30, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Gerald Klein wrote:

> "a thread of rants making deluded claims" Here we go negative again, "a 
> thread of rants making deluded claims" you just love to hear yourself talk 
> don't you. I didn't respond to your last post because you started to make 
> reasonable representation of your case, let it go.
> 


Have you actually read all of the posts in this thread? I have. It reads like 
"no one does anything interesting, except for me. Why is everyone ignoring me?" 
That IS my reasonable case presentation. 

If you want, I'll spend some time gathering examples for you...

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> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Rick Waldron <[email protected] 
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> > On Sunday, September 30, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Gerald Klein wrote:
> > 
> > > Call it soap boxing what ever you like, but when you say "I think I speak 
> > > for most when I say" I have a problem, because you don't. Further the 
> > > line about show us some code was not what I was talking about, it was the 
> > > lines prior to that. "you've given us nothing to be interested in, aside 
> > > from a few YouTube videos and some hints about an API that, to be honest, 
> > > looks nothing like a well designed JavaScript API" Ah yes a positive and 
> > > necessary critique from someone with an obvious superior intelligence. 
> > > Personally I don't care what your creating robots with, this has to do 
> > > with respect. You know I have always been impressed with braggarts that 
> > > use accomplishment to justify rude behavior.  
> > I didn't mention those projects to brag at all, I mentioned them because 
> > the OP has created a thread of rants making deluded claims and then 
> > complains that no one is interested. 
> > 
> > Well... I'm interested, but I want to see more and I don't mean more 
> > YouTube videos and rants, I want code.
> > 
> > Rick
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> > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Rick Waldron <[email protected] 
> > > (mailto:[email protected])> wrote:
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> > > > On Sunday, September 30, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Gerald Klein wrote:
> > > > > > @Rick please don't speak for most, speak for your self. If you have 
> > > > > > no interest then don't comment. Large ideas come from small ideas, 
> > > > > > I would hate to think that something I might say could have been 
> > > > > > short sighted may ruin the chances of something good happening 
> > > > > > coming out of someones effort. IMHO
> > > > > 
> > > > > thanks --jerry 
> > > > 
> > > > Reel it in buddy, I was the first person to respond to the original 
> > > > post (shared some interesting, related research and information).  
> > > > 
> > > > Since then all I've read is long winded soapboxing, with claims that 
> > > > people don't take JavaScript seriously enough as a "high level" 
> > > > language and that no one is innovating quite like the author is... 
> > > > forgive me, but I expect substance to back claims like that. I've spent 
> > > > the last 7 months programming arduino robots with JavaScript and this 
> > > > past week Felix G demoed ARdrone control programs written in JS... None 
> > > > of that would matter if there were no code to show for it. So like I 
> > > > said, show me some code and I'll show you some interest.  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Rick 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Rick Waldron <[email protected] 
> > > > > (mailto:[email protected])> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Sep 30, 2012 10:35 AM, "Dennis Kane" <[email protected] 
> > > > > > (mailto:[email protected])> wrote:
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> > > > > > > My most recent work can be seen here: 
> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NTjmy7PbD0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have added functionality to the bottom dock, including a 
> > > > > > > working Trashcan.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have still received precisely zero real interest in any of this 
> > > > > > > & I am really eager to get together with programmers who want to 
> > > > > > > get something beautiful started!
> > > > > > I think I speak for most when I say: you've given us nothing to be 
> > > > > > interested in, aside from a few YouTube videos and some hints about 
> > > > > > an API that, to be honest, looks nothing like a well designed 
> > > > > > JavaScript API. 
> > > > > > Share some code ;) 
> > > > > > Rick 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My theory is basically that the nature of the front-end 
> > > > > > > experience crucially determines how much "excitement" the 
> > > > > > > back-end administrators will have.  At the moment, the web is 
> > > > > > > filled with absolutely boring/unresponsive front-ends.  So anyone 
> > > > > > > who wants to work with me will really have a leg up in terms of 
> > > > > > > offering the kind of user experience that will keep the 
> > > > > > > back-enders on their toes ("on their toes" == "gamefully 
> > > > > > > employed" ;)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > By the way, I am well aware that any business that comes out of 
> > > > > > > this will not want to offer an exact replica of OS X as their 
> > > > > > > front end.  I am using OS X as the ultimate challenge to see how 
> > > > > > > awesome I can make the end user experience.  Once I can get this 
> > > > > > > prototype working as well as possible, then I can start to think 
> > > > > > > about how to make it even better than OS X!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am all ears in terms of what kinds of services can be offered 
> > > > > > > up through this kind of interface...
> > > > > > >
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