Good points, thanks. Let's see how things will develop. I just saw 
this<http://blog.firebase.com/post/38234264120/the-new-firebase-security-api> 
(Firebase 
security API) and I think - in combination with the other stuff - this what 
I am after, only that I would like to have it as a set of node modules ... 
Happy holidays everybody, and keep up the great work on Node & its modules!

Am Dienstag, 18. Dezember 2012 16:51:30 UTC+1 schrieb James Tikalsky:
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 17, 2012 9:08:40 AM UTC-5, panyasan wrote:
>>
>> Am Montag, 17. Dezember 2012 12:24:56 UTC+1 schrieb Kevin Jones:
>>>
>>>
>>> Today though I wonder if you looking for the wrong answer, is the new 
>>> application server not a PaaS API?
>>>
>>
>> Definitely what I am looking for looks more like an API than one of the 
>> old Java App Servers. It becomes increasingly clear to me that my use of 
>> the word "application server" pushed the wrong buttons... Thanks for 
>> pointing that out. 
>>
>
> > What I find interesting to debate is if your general claim (each project 
> is radically different) really is true for everybody
>
> Well, for node.js apps, they *are* radically different, because we (the 
> node.js community) are still in the early adopter phase of things. (To 
> compare with Java, it's 1998... think about what app servers looked like in 
> 1998.) We're building lots and lots of apps, all kinds of different stuff, 
> and we're learning what works and what doesn't. As Kevin pointed out, the 
> PaaS providers will start to tailor their offerings with specialized 
> configurations, once they know what we typically build and deploy. In 
> addition, we'll see some more opinionated frameworks appear (RoR being a 
> good example: it's opinion was to get things up and running quickly). 
> Probably some of the things being built on top of express.js will emerge as 
> "framework for building type x application" solutions.
>

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