Wow. This thread got pretty ridiculous, didn't it? I'm really disappointed.
People who put on conferences take on an absurd amount of responsibility and put in an inhuman amount of work, and often end up losing a considerable amount of money in the process. If they do make a profit, it tends to get invested in the next years' conference. No one's getting rich running conferences in the Node community. They deserve your respect, even if you disagree with their decisions or priorities. We are lucky. NodeConf was not free, it's true. It was paid for in part by the attendees, and to a large degree by the sponsors. Those who did pay for it generally seemed quite pleased with their purchase. A lot of lasting value was provided FOR FREE to everyone in the node community who didn't attend. If you have a problem with NodeConf, email Mikeal Rogers off-list to discuss it. Same goes for EmpireJS, LXJS, Node Dublin, et al. Take your problems off-list. This list is not for expressing disapproval. Especially disapproval of content that you are getting for free, provided by someone else at personal expense. Same goes for conferences, open source libraries, etc. So, here's a new rule for this list: You have to be nice. You are not allowed to make rude comments about anyone or anything. Even if someone specifically asks, "Hey, do you like express (or coffeescript or promises or whatever)?" and if you happen to NOT like that thing, you must couch your disapproval in the most respectful language possible, acknowledging what might be its strong points, and you may ONLY do so if explicitly asked. Or better yet, just don't say anything. The next person to break this rule gets permanently banned without warning. It will be swift, and not open for discussion. I am sorry to get all kindergarten about this, but really: If you don't have something nice to say, say it somewhere else (or just don't). If you wanna complain, do it productively, like a grownup, in private, with the person who you actually have a problem with. If you want to complain like a child, then that's what Hacker News is for. This list is different. The Node community is different. I don't care about losing a few people who spew bad energy. I care about losing all the newcomers who see a bad-energy-geiser, and decide that Ruby or Python are more their speed. If you think I'm talking about you, you're probably right. Don't say anything to defend or apologize. I don't care. Just stop spewing bad vibes, and don't let it happen again. If you think I'm not talking about you, that's fine. Make sure you never fall into this category. Thanks. On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Jorge Chamorro <[email protected]> wrote: > On 08/02/2013, at 23:08, Mikeal Rogers wrote: > >> http://www.futurealoof.com > > Awesome, thanks for sharing, love @izs' idea of "no" :-) > > -- > -- > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ > Posting guidelines: > https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "nodejs" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "nodejs" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- -- Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ Posting guidelines: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "nodejs" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "nodejs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
