On Aug 13, 2013, at 6:07 PM, Mikeal Rogers <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> In the end, all of this mailing list complaining doesn't really amount to 
> anything. While several of the most vocal people here put their code where 
> their mouth is and maintain libraries for alternatives to node's core 
> patterns most of the people who complain here contribute very little and the 
> overwhelming number of people who are producing growth in the ecosystem don't 
> say anything here, they're busy writing code.
> <snip happens>
> 
> Criticism is necessary to move the project forward but it's a mistake to 
> think that criticism in and of itself is somehow indicative of any specific 
> failure. With success comes criticism, we're unlikely to see an end to it any 
> time soon.


If “criticism is necessary to move the project forward” then how can it be that 
“all of this mailing list complaining doesn’t really amount to anything”? I 
think your last part is quite right (that criticism, especially the “you suck” 
variety, is par for the course) but the first part paints all speakers with a 
broad reactionary brush.

        —ravi


P.S: Personally, I appreciate the philosophy outlined in the first part of 
Isaac’s message and what I know/see of the history of Node (through my novice 
eyes). I wish require.paths had not been removed and that certain aspects of 
npm/node_modules structure were different (both of which I have wrapped 
around), but those are minor issues, and I have no complaints.


> As much as you might think Isaac should spend his time listening to people 
> who are vocal here he has a great ear for the silent masses building the 
> world's fastest growing ecosystem as well as the people deploying very large 
> scale solutions entirely on node.js.
> 
> -Mikeal
> 
> On Aug 13, 2013, at 2:50PM, Eldar <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> There are not so much insane people
>> If someone tells that the core API sucks probably it's really sucks and it's
>> fair to try to understand him harder to get his point.
>> Or to let him know that you indeed deeply understand him, learned all his
>> arguments but have in mind something he didn't know and educate about that.
>> There are not so much people not able to understand others and place
>> themselves to other's side.
> 
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