I agree with Issacs and Bert. We should have node as it is. Error handling and callbacks are sucks. (for most/some of the people). But still we build apps.
As bert said, we need solutions for those problems. Fibers, promises does a good job. It need to be better. Meteor is a good example, which tries to solve some pain in nodejs. And it is not node. Something else. On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 6:45 AM, // ravi <[email protected]> wrote: > On Aug 13, 2013, at 6:07 PM, Mikeal Rogers <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > In the end, all of this mailing list complaining doesn't really amount > to anything. While several of the most vocal people here put their code > where their mouth is and maintain libraries for alternatives to node's core > patterns most of the people who complain here contribute very little and > the overwhelming number of people who are producing growth in the ecosystem > don't say anything here, they're busy writing code. > > <snip happens> > > > > Criticism is necessary to move the project forward but it's a mistake to > think that criticism in and of itself is somehow indicative of any specific > failure. With success comes criticism, we're unlikely to see an end to it > any time soon. > > > If “criticism is necessary to move the project forward” then how can it be > that “all of this mailing list complaining doesn’t really amount to > anything”? I think your last part is quite right (that criticism, > especially the “you suck” variety, is par for the course) but the first > part paints all speakers with a broad reactionary brush. > > —ravi > > > P.S: Personally, I appreciate the philosophy outlined in the first part of > Isaac’s message and what I know/see of the history of Node (through my > novice eyes). I wish require.paths had not been removed and that certain > aspects of npm/node_modules structure were different (both of which I have > wrapped around), but those are minor issues, and I have no complaints. > > > > As much as you might think Isaac should spend his time listening to > people who are vocal here he has a great ear for the silent masses building > the world's fastest growing ecosystem as well as the people deploying very > large scale solutions entirely on node.js. > > > > -Mikeal > > > > On Aug 13, 2013, at 2:50PM, Eldar <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> There are not so much insane people > >> If someone tells that the core API sucks probably it's really sucks and > it's > >> fair to try to understand him harder to get his point. > >> Or to let him know that you indeed deeply understand him, learned all > his > >> arguments but have in mind something he didn't know and educate about > that. > >> There are not so much people not able to understand others and place > >> themselves to other's side. > > > > > > -- > > -- > > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ > > Posting guidelines: > https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "nodejs" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected] > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en > > > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "nodejs" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected]. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > -- > -- > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ > Posting guidelines: > https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "nodejs" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "nodejs" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Arunoda Susiripala @arunoda <http://twitter.com/arunoda> <http://gplus.to/arunoda>https://github.com/arunoda http://www.linkedin.com/in/arunoda -- -- Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ Posting guidelines: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "nodejs" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "nodejs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
