As a non native english speaker yes. Just because we read, speak and write English it does not mean we fully understand English. It’s not like we’ve studied english. Most of us are only taught english in high school. And to be honest I still use Google translate on a weekly basis to translate English words to Dutch.
On Wednesday 4 December 2013 at 19:54, // ravi wrote: > On Dec 4, 2013, at 11:58 AM, Darren DeRidder <[email protected] > (mailto:[email protected])> wrote: > > "respect our wishes"? Really? After you call someone who speaks English as > > a second language an a-hole on your corporate blog and push one of the most > > valued contributors out of the node community? > > > > It is mildly amusing that Americans (not you) think the rest of the world > needs to be administered a test on English as a foreign/second language, but > the above seems to be said in seriousness. While I am respectful of the > signal contributions made by said speaker, are you really saying that > someone, who could put together full, grammatically correct, well constructed > paragraphs of English here on the list and in that particular GitHub message, > found a gender-neutrality change to be trivial *because* he found the > English involved (the words “he” and “they”) foreign and ambiguous/confusing? > > The word “asshole”, without doubt, ruined a blog post that was otherwise > carefully reasoned (in the most part). > > —ravi > > P.S: I used the word “gender” above, though I suspect the correct term may be > “sex” — I do not know and am open to being corrected on my ignorance (that’s > not an issue of English). Hopefully that doesn’t make me an asshole. > > > > Discussion on HN is here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6845286 > > > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 7:58:27 AM UTC-5, Alex Kocharin wrote: > > > > > > It's funny to see how a best way to get appreciation for a good work is > > > to step out of it. > > > > > > I don't have a particular opinion about that piece of bikeshedding > > > everyone were discussing, but yeah, it is a great loss to the community, > > > and I would like to thank Ben for his work here for last couple of years. > > > > > > > > > 04.12.2013, 14:18, "Dave Horton" <[email protected] (javascript:)>: > > > > Sad is the word. I'm feeling strangely gutted by this, and as someone > > > > on the outskirts of node I don't even know Ben. But I have always been > > > > struck by his willingness to be helpful to one and all on mailing lists > > > > and the IRC who were trying to learn, use, and develop libuv. Those > > > > exchanges that I had with him and witnessed with others greatly > > > > impressed me of his generosity, intelligence, and openness to ideas > > > > and/or challenges - those are critical qualities in a community like > > > > ours. And as someone with personal past experience with > > > > startup/founder/exit drama, I hate to see someone put down what must > > > > have been a labor of love in this way. I would hope there is a way > > > > back, if all that is needed is a breather and some time away. Failing > > > > that, I would be interested to find a way to show my gratitude to Ben > > > > in some sort of more meaningful way if others have any ideas... > > > > > > > > It's probably a good day for us all to reflect internally on the > > > > meaning of "community", and what we personally can do (not tell others > > > > to do) to make this community -- our community -- continue to grow, and > > > > to attract and retain good people -- whether they be standard-bearers > > > > like Ben, or minor players like me. > > > > > > > > Thank you Ben. 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