On 12/09/2013 11:25 AM, Isaac Schlueter wrote:
> Meanwhile, also looking as an outsider, I *don't* see the consensus
> forming around either "Joyent's control is fine" or "a non-profit would
> be better".  The views on this from main contributors seem to be all
> over the map.

The problem is that this mailing list is used by roughly 1% or less of the Node community, and only a few "major contributors" have even bothered to weigh in on this thread.

The vast majority of users clearly don't care one way or another.

Not true. +1 for working towards foundation. Not because of recent fuss, and not because of the way the project has been run (actually quite good). The key reason is that proprietary software companies will continue to buy up open source owning companies and key personnel. To think proprietary software companies will love OSS is naive - they simply can't/won't - it's totally against their business model. Service companies are different and can be great foundation sponsors.

So, one option is to continue as is and when a proprietary company buys Joyent to control Node, then hurry up and react (like MariaDB). Or be more proactive. A foundation gives more assurance to those of us users relying on Node as open source, that it will remain open and active.

If Joyent is unwilling to donate trademarks, copyrights, etc, to a foundation, then maybe it's time for a fork that does go into a foundation. Lots of OSS projects are in foundations so it can't be as onerous as some claim (ie Inkscape, CouchDB, LibreOffice, AOO, ...).







On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Bradley M. Kuhn <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    // ravi wrote at 12:24 (EST) on Sunday:
    > rather than speak in the abstract, why not consider the actual
    > proposals made that I was referring to

    Part of my point in this thread has been that Node.js community
    need not
    narrow its options for an organizational home down to just one or two
    choices immediately.

    > I differ, perhaps, in my inability to see a problem in the
    > arrangement, as it exists today

    As I also pointed out in my original post, how the question came up is
    not necessarily relevant to considering the question of where Node.js
    wants its organizational home.  I also pointed out that status quo
    has a
    strong power in situations like this.

    Both the upsides and the downsides of having an Open Source and Free
    Software project housed in a single for-profit entity are pretty
    apparent.  If the upsides outweigh the downsides for this community,
    then you should stick with it.

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