Here is almost a first draft of the Change Proposal. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NodejsLibrariesBundleByDefault
I currently have two questions 1 - Name ... I'm having a hard time with the name. I'm currently at "Stop Shipping Individual Nodejs Library Packages" but that doesn't seem right. 2 - Updates. Do we have some package with a giant list of obsoletes? If so, what package? On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 10:08 AM Stephen Gallagher <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 1:07 PM Ben Rosser <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 12:56 PM Troy Dawson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 8:47 AM Stephen Gallagher <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > ... > > > > Frankly, I think we should probably get out of the business of > > > > shipping library NPMs entirely. Upstream's stance on global vs. local > > > > NPM installations is this [1]: > > > > > > > > """ > > > > Just like how global variables are kind of gross, but also necessary > > > > in some cases, global packages are important, but best avoided if not > > > > needed. > > > > > > > > In general, the rule of thumb is: > > > > > > > > * If you’re installing something that you want to use in your program, > > > > using require('whatever'), then install it locally, at the root of > > > > your project. > > > > * If you’re installing something that you want to use in your shell, > > > > on the command line or something, install it globally, so that its > > > > binaries end up in your PATH environment variable. > > > > """ > > > > > > > > So, as a shorthand, I think Fedora should only package: > > > > > > > > 1) The interpreter, development headers/libraries, and the assorted > > > > tools to manage project-level installations (NPM, yarn, etc.). > > > > 2) Packages that provide binaries that users would want to use in their > > > > shell. > > > > > > > > I'm not sure when bundling their dependencies would be impossible. Can > > > > you provide an example? The whole ecosystem is designed around > > > > bundling as the preferred approach. > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://nodejs.org/en/blog/npm/npm-1-0-global-vs-local-installation/ > > > > > > I can't provide an example of when bundling would be impossible. I > > > just assumed there would be one. > > > Part of me thinks this will be alot of work, and another part of me > > > thinks it will be less work than what I was proposing above. > > > > > > I like your proposal over mine. It's more clear, and clean. And > > > after the initial set of work, the packaging workload drops. > > > > > > Does anyone have any major objections before I look at how to do a > > > Fedora change proposal? > > > > > > Troy > > > > > > > At least for the short term, I'd suggest adding (3): compiled/binary > > nodejs modules; there aren't very many of these in the ecosystem > > anyway, as I understand it (there certainly aren't very many in > > Fedora) so I don't think it would be too much work to package them > > separately. > > > > Otherwise, this sounds good to me! > > > > Sounds like a reasonable approach. +1 > _______________________________________________ nodejs mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected]
