Thanks for understanding guys, I felt very alone in these thoughts and 
unwelcome..
I really screwed up in the playoffs last year in not following procedure in 
playing
the games and I have been thinking of ways to atone..  I wanted to prepare a 
checklist that (especially new mgrs) could follow in playing games so they are 
not
disqualified and send a copy to everybody and be available for the inevitable
lost copies..
I have time (perhaps not the knowledge) to assist.
Geneva

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: Bob Oakman <[email protected]> 
Mike,
i feel partly responsible for starting all this with my proclaimation that ( i 
have the #1) am ready to begin.  in the recent past the #1 pick and maybe even 
the 2 & 3 were announced via email (probably out of anxious idle time), 
i think we did a whole round before we opened up the draftsite with all 20 in 
attendance. 
so officially, i jumped the gun   and man am i ever sorry i did.

while alot of these guys are from the Va area and have known eachother for 
years , i feel the "good ol' boy" thing is melting away. the new mgrs helps. 
timezones will always be an unavoidable issue (are you on the W coast?)

mgrs not having equal access is unacceptable.
robert does the church thing on Sun. so he may not even see this til tonoght.  
Jack Howard handles the draft and its proceedures ... though they seem to 
disagree on the deadline dates!

truth be told : nombl needs the work that you and Scott mention. my hope is 
that Jack will make this happen soon.
i will give them their Sun., before offering my 2cents.

Bob Oakman

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--- On Sun, 1/4/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Deadline for Cuts JAN 11th, 2009
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 10:49 AM


The straight facts are that every other league I am involved in is very well 
organized and
the players are listed in position with their important (judgable) SOM stats so 
easy
comparison can be made.  PERIOD.
Drafts and other League efforts are not made when one team is 'READY' but 
actually
on a specific schedule.
It is worrisome when I am told I have the second overall draft pick and then 
another
mnager informs me it is not until the 6th pick...
I have tried to load the tradechart and draftchart files without success and 
notifed Robert
of that result with not a response...
It concerns me about the 'draft party' occurring 3000 miles away and the 
possible specific
time requirements that will be imposed on absent managers..
This League really feels like an old boy network and I feel like I am being 
left out and it is
limiting my team's competitiveness..
Those are my concerns, you can ignore them, look at them as constructive 
criticisms, or ask
me to leave- its your decision (but I will ask for my dues back).
I will help any way I can to construct these player card spreadsheets but I 
can't do it on my
own.  It would really help competitiveness!
Geneva
PS stop asking me for trades when I don't even have the information available 
to evaluate
the best trade, it makes me fell taken advantage of and like I am some kind of 
fool.

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Scott Fritchman" <[email protected]> 
robert, can i cut draft picks?  


On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 1:55 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:


I think you maybe confusing the waiver draft (bottom 3 teams get to sign 
players cuts from all teams and cut 1 of there players upon signing).  This is 
not the draft you will be drafting in March.  This draft is not in the rules as 
we don't always do it but it was suppose to be a 1 time draft but it has been 
requested last 2 yrs also and I can think this does improved the weaker teams.  
Only carded players are allowed to be signed.
You maybe the only one that is A CASUAL PLAYER. You said you read the rules 
before joining last year. Because we draft uncarded prospects never thought you 
were CASUAL PLAYER. I am very sorry if this is not what you expected but 
researching for prospects has always been everyone for themself.
All that is happening is making cuts!  Cards will not be sent out until Feb 
13th.  I think all can find sta ts for 2008 by now.  That is all that is needed 
for now.  NOMBL is starting 9th year and this is first time anyone has 
complained about making cuts this early as they are done every year at the same 
time.  As for the draft NO ONE has said when the email draft will begin but if 
someone wants to announce his pick now what is the problem?????  NOMBL time 
table is setup that once draft is over March 14 rosters are at 40 and we start 
April 1st every year. That only leaves 16 days for trades, sorting rosters and 
getting cmi out and imported and league file sent back out.  It may seem like 
there is plenty of time but not if your the one doing it.   Any player not on a 
current roster is available?  This means you can draft high school players or 
yourself if you wish.
Also the spreedsheet that he couldn't load was because he thought they were in 
word.  Not all emails go through group emails as I try to keep emails private 
as some don't like that ma ny emails.
Lastly not sure how I am causing computers not to load??  I just emailed the 
draft list to everyone and had you asked I would have sent it to you earlier.  
I sent it out earlier anyway?

Anyone that would like to discuss this further please email at 
[email protected] or call me at 757-235-4494.  Rules 15.4 says:
15.4 The NOMBL public league email address will be used for positive discussion 
and league matters only.  Arguments and demeaning others shall not be 
tolerated.  Let's keep it fun!

These emails are certainly are not keeping it fun.

Thanks for your cooperation,
ROBERT


-- [email protected] wrote:
I THINK HEARTSTRINGS IS RIGHT TOO!
WHATS THE RUSH?
FOR A CASUAL PLAYER THIS LEAGUE IS NOT VERY FAIR
A LEAGUE LEADER SHOULD PREPARE A SPREADSHEET OF ALL POSITIONS
AND THE AVAILABLE PLAYERS SO EVERYBODY CAN HAVE A CHANCE OF
LOCATING GOOD TALENT.
YOU PENALIZE THOSE OF US WHO CANNOT KEEP UP WITH ABSOLUTELY
EVERYTHING CONCERNED WITH BASEBALL.
NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT MORE THAN ONE MGR CANNOT GET
THE SPREADSHEETS, LISTS, ETC  TO EVEN LOAD ON  THEIR COMPUTERS...
REALLY, HOW MUCH FUN CAN A LEAGUE BE IF ITS LOADED?
GENEVA
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: [email protected]
> Last year I felt the cuts were to early - I think we should wait until
> people have had a chance to review their cards - a week - 10 days after they
> first
> arrive would be fair.
>
> Call me crazy - but I think that is fair  to ALL
> **************New year...new news.  Be the first to know what is making
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> >





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