i was in a cap league and it wasn't fun.

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 4:43 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> how come?
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> do you become possessive of your players and hate to part with them?
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> the frequent roster changes too stressful?
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> like the continuity of having a player for their entire career?
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> I would really like to know if you care to elaborate.
>
> mike
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Fritchman" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2009 12:24:13 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: "then you would be incorrect" ha,ha- you guys kill me! :)
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> i hate salary cap leagues!
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> On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 2:52 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]>wrote:
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>> Please be advised that Ports and myself are currenting in league with
>> budget and FA and RFA.  My team was last when I got it and for the last 2 yr
>> still last.  So explain to me how this system more the bad team/s
>> better??????????  As for the best players becoming available well they
>> don't!  They continue to sign/keep them and let the other players go and
>> fill in with what's available.
>>
>> Sorry but I LOVE/D the old baseball before FA.  Everything that is bad in
>> the game today came when Curt Flood won FA for players.  I like/d that my
>> team the Yankees kept Munson, Mantle, Tresh, Pepitone, Bearra, etc year
>> after year.   I know that some of the others in this league do also but some
>> are too young to have lived through that.
>>
>> ROBERT
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>> Subject: "then you would be incorrect"  ha,ha-  you guys kill me!  :)
>> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 15:19:20 +0000 (UTC)
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>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 15:19:20 +0000 (UTC)
>> Subject: "then you would be incorrect" ha,ha- you guys kill me! :)
>>  Interesting theories abound to improve the lowly cubs!  Losing 15 in a
>> row must be some kind of record, albeit dubious...
>>     I am spending $12M of my $85M payroll for Philip Rivers this year...
>>  We carry 53 players.
>> I am scurrying about trying to come up with a cheaper replacement for him
>> and trying to
>> balance the team with that kind of megastar on it, *and having loads of
>> fun*!!!
>> Now, I could let him go and he enters the free agent draft and the first
>> pick costs 8M,
>> 2nd and 3rd costs 6M, ... and his *value* will be quickly determined by
>> the other mgrs...
>> I am guessing the max, $8M.  On the other hand, I have to let Joseph Addai
>> go since
>> he will cost $8M (see they increase every year..) but I suspect he will
>> fall in the free agent
>> draft to maybe a 2-3M draft pick (injured and not many yards last year)...
>>   see how it works?
>>     The format of having to balance a roster with the players expense is
>> very realistic, dynamic,
>> and great fun!  It will make the non-carded draft choices even more
>> important I suspect.
>> Now, imagine you have Pujols in our league.  He is a major expense and
>> grows more each
>> year...  how to afford him, do you want to afford him?...  Finally when
>> you let him go, the
>> 'stinkiest' team picks him up in the free agent draft for $8M and suddenly
>> the stinker may
>> be a contender!  I love this recirculation of star players (meaning other
>> teams get a chance to
>> pick them up).  Otherwise in our league, once you get Pujols...  he never
>> leaves until your
>> cold, dead finger's rigorous grip finally loosens...  ha, ha!
>>     My purpose in this email is not to knock our league's way of doing
>> things but to let you see
>> another way SOM hobby leagues do things, and possibly how to get more fun
>> out of it!  Now,
>> change is a terror to some people so I will not propose it for our league
>> so don't worry!  I joined
>> this league and will continue to follow our rules until my curiosity is
>> sated  or I no longer find it
>> interesting.  But the cubs have a *seven pitcher rotation *!  Is that not
>> cool or what?!
>>
>> mike
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "LOU VINCENT" <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2009 7:15:38 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
>> Subject: Re: geneva cubs starters
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>> And I plan on being a force next season.......................As my draft
>> picks are working out & players coimng into their own, like Ellsbury
>> etc..........
>>
>> Lou
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Cc: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 7:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: geneva cubs starters
>>
>>
>> Then you would be incorrect.  Chesp is a good example and by his own words
>>
>> stunk the last 2 yrs but has been to the playoffs and in 2005    MELBOURNE
>>
>> beat Chesapeake Highlanders in 7 games.  Lou has been the only manager for
>>
>> Chesp and if you research his draft this year had the best draft of anyone
>>
>> and should be a force very soon for years to come.  He also traded after
>> the
>> draft for    Tommy   Hanson, and  Clayton Kershaw so don't tell me that
>> teams don't trade but either.  It is true that lately the new managers are
>>
>> trading less but that is up to them.  Also teams have changed names
>> everything they get a new manager so even if you recd the last 5 yrs only
>> a
>> few would have same names so you would be able to follow them.  I have
>> listed 07 and 04 and you will see GEN near 500 in 04 but the manager
>> didn't
>> like the draft picks and trade them all or most away.  His final season he
>>
>> finally realized the value of those draft picks. (I my self had with the
>> very last pick of the NOMBL draft pick # 200 drafted Brian McCann!  NOTE:
>> in 04 there was NO U stink draft it was something that was suppose to be a
>> 1
>> year thing to help only the worst teams!  Bottom line is teams can, do,
>> and
>> have gone worst to near 1st but those that put in the effort get the
>> reward.
>> This also has to do with how much effort is put into the CMI.  Those that
>> don't fill out the chart for each player/pitcher separately have problems
>> winning because the bull pen is over used and picked at random to pitch or
>>
>> starters can be limited to 6 or 7 IP per start.  However most teams don't
>> fill them out and wonder why their pitchers get used up so quickly.
>>
>> Bottom line there is many reasons why teams win or don't win.
>>
>>       LEAGUE STANDINGS FOR 2007 NOMBL BASEBALL
>>
>> PRAIRE                      WON LOST  PCT   GB  MAGIC#   ACTWON ACTLOST
>> ACTPCT
>> 2007 Pennsylvania PEN        98  64  .605 ----  *WON*       111      51
>> .685
>> 2007 Howard HOW              88  74  .543 10.0               66      96
>> .407
>> 2007 Norfolk NOR             85  77  .525 13.0               80      82
>> .494
>> 2007 Las Vegas LVP           77  85  .475 21.0               95      67
>> .586
>> 2007 Oakland BUZ             66  96  .407 32.0                0
>>     0   ----
>>
>> CENTRAL                     WON LOST  PCT   GB  MAGIC#
>> 2007 Chesapeake CHE          98  64  .605 ----     1
>> 2007 Ohio OHI                98  64  .605 ----
>> 2007 Purple PNY              75  87  .463 23.0
>> 2007 Pittsburgh PIT          72  90  .444 26.0
>> 2007 Tidewater TID           64  99  .393 34.5
>>
>> ATLANTIC                    WON LOST  PCT   GB  MAGIC#
>> 2007 Rapid City RAP          96  66  .593 ----  *WON*
>> 2007 North Bay NBS           78  84  .481 18.0
>> 2007 Sacramento SOX          75  87  .463 21.0
>> 2007 Portsmouth POR          69  93  .426 27.0
>> 2007 Huntington HUN          54 109  .331 42.5
>>
>> METRO                       WON LOST  PCT   GB  MAGIC#   ACTWON ACTLOST
>> ACTPCT
>> 2007 Virginia VIR           100  62  .617 ----     1         91      71
>> .562
>> 2007 Des Moines DES         100  62  .617 ----                0
>>     0   ----
>> 2007 California CAL          96  66  .593  4.0               90      72
>> .556
>> 2007 Melbourne MEL           75  87  .463 25.0               99      63
>> .611
>> 2007 Geneva GEN              57 105  .352 43.0               72      90
>> .444
>>
>>                                                  LEAGUE STANDINGS FOR 2004
>>
>> NOMBL BASEBALL
>>
>> PRAIRE                      WON LOST  PCT   GB  MAGIC#
>> 2004 Hawaii HAW              92  70  .568 ----  *WON*
>> 2004 Howard HOW              80  79  .503 10.5
>> 2004 Geneva GEN              72  88  .450 19.0
>> 2004 Logan LOG               69  89  .437 21.0
>> 2004 Rapid City RAP          70  93  .429 22.5
>>
>> GOLDEN ST                   WON LOST  PCT   GB  MAGIC#
>> 2004 Melbourne SAN           97  64  .602 ----  *WON*
>> 2004 California CAL          94  69  .577  4.0
>> 2004 Boston BOS              82  80  .506 15.5
>> 2004 Eagle Bend EAG          66  91  .420 29.0
>> 2004 L.V./Sacramento LVG     57 104  .354 40.0
>>
>> ATLANTIC                    WON LOST  PCT   GB  MAGIC#   ACTWON ACTLOST
>> ACTPCT
>> 2004 Virginia VIR            93  69  .574 ----  *WON*       116      46
>> .716
>> 2004 Chesapeake CHE          91  71  .562  2.0                0
>>     0   ----
>> 2004 Norfolk NOR             87  75  .537  6.0                0
>>     0   ----
>> 2004 Pittsburgh PIT          87  78  .527  7.5                0
>>     0   ----
>> 2004 Portsmouth POR          76  84  .475 16.0                0
>>     0   ----
>>
>> METRO                       WON LOST  PCT   GB  MAGIC#
>> 2004 Hells Kitchen HEL      105  58  .644 ----  *WON*
>> 2004 Pennsylvania PEN        94  66  .588  9.5
>> 2004 South Dakota SDA        94  68  .580 10.5
>> 2004 Huntington HUN          57 105  .352 47.5
>> 2004 Clear Lake CLL          49 111  .306 54.5
>>
>> ROBERT
>>
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>> From: Brandt Mathews <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: geneva cubs starters
>> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:37:29 -0700
>>
>> I think Mike has a very good email here. I would be very curious to see
>> the
>> final results of the last 5 years. I would say if the majority of bottom
>> teams stay on bottom there is a problem. What I have seen in the last 2
>> years of drafting is that a lot of the stinky teams end up spending thier
>> high draft picks on desperate need for innings just to get through the
>> year
>> and not really getting an opportunity to pick up the players that will
>> help
>> thier team improve. I don't know if there is an answer out there but I
>> don't
>> think the "pity draft" really helps the lower teams enough. Maybe some
>> kind
>> of supllamental round after the first round for teams that have been in
>> the
>> bottom 8 two years in a row or something.
>>
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