I do not agree with some of these  arguments - and I would hate to see a 
rule changed when it has been good for the  league for a long time - changing 
limits as to what qualifies a player as NCR or  uncarded would definitely 
change how managers can/could/should evaluate  players(period).   
 
I think the NCR rule is fine as it  stands and furthermore I believe the 
league rules have other areas that need to  be reviewed and possibly changed 
before we adjust a good rule.  And I am  not saying this about my team as it 
stands today - I only have 4 NCRs on my  current roster.  I am saying this 
for the sake of the league as a  whole.
 
 
In a message dated 9/9/2011 11:37:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

actually the term NCR is incorrect I should have said uncarded  players.  
Since the game gives a card to everyone that plays at all the  NCR is not 
what is effected but the league calls a card.  As for hurting  bad teams it 
would do just the reverse as since anyone under the new limits  would count 
toward the limit of six (which is not the case now) thus keeps  teams from 
draft players with 1 IP and calling that a card thus can still  draft 6 
uncarded 
players.  As for making cuts more  difficult good!  As Don stated that his 
team was so bad that there  were better players on the cut list than he kept 
on his roster and  wanted/needed to draft more than the 3 he was allowed to 
draft in the I stink  draft.  Plus then teams making cuts must decide which 
he would rather  have (NCR or in my case Johan Santana)!  Again teams that 
current  uncarded players and have less the the new limits then YES they 
would have to  decide if they want to keep them or cut them for new one/s.  
This also  helps the bad teams as they are more NCR for them to choose from and 
since  they draft way before the good teams they have better chance of 
getting better  NCR. 
 
We already have a limit on the uncarded player it is just being  increased. 
 You have seen Lou suggesting we increasing it even more and  this is 
something I have been asked to do long before now I just have not  remembered 
soon enough to change before now. 
 
 
ROBERT

---------- Original Message ----------
From:  [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: New  limits to NCR for 2012 / Jack's 2 cents worth
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011  00:11:56 -0400 (EDT)

Instead of  putting a minimum usage on NCRs - 
 
If changes are needed and league approves the changes as a whole, then I  
would suggest the league define or redefine NCR as (1) a player with no 
current card;  or (2) a player that has never been  carded.
 
Then I would suggest the league change the maximum number a team can  draft 
or maintain on a roster.
For example I would say if we use the definition Never Been  Carded - I 
would suggest we limit teams to 2 or 3 NCR picks a year  and a maximum of 4 - 6 
NCR players on a roster at anyone time.
 
If we use the No Current Card definition - I would  suggest we allow teams 
to draft a maximum of 4 NCRs a year and each  team can carry no more 6 - 8  
NCRs a year. 
 
However, changing  the NCR Rule is a dangerous proposition.  The NCR rule 
is what makes this  league exciting - especially at draft time and to make 
changes would not only  hurt the league in general but it would reduce the 
chance of a bad team  could improve itself quickly --- because the manager 
would not be  allowed to build as large a farm system.  A change of minimum AB 
or IP  would not only change the draft pool - it would also change each 
team's roster  - make decisions on keepers/cut more difficult.  Managers would 
have  to change the way they evaluate players on their current roster based on 
 their playing time.  I know I am thrilled when my NCR's that are on  my 
roster finally get the so called "cup of coffee", but under the  potential new 
proposal they may not change their NCR eligibility.  I  would be opposed to 
minimum usage playing limits on NCRs,  especially limits that are not 
agreed to by the league as a  whole. 
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/9/2011 12:07:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

The current rule for NOT being considered a NCR was/is played in 1 game  or 
pitched 1/3 inn.  However I have be asked for couple years now to up  the 
limits and I think now is the time to do so.  I havent decided on  the exact 
# yet but wanted to advise now before trades and plans are made  using the 
old rule.  At the current time I am leaning toward 10 AB or  IP but I have 
been asked to make it higher.  I may but havent made up  my mind on exact 
numbers. 
 
I am thinking maybe increase the limit slowly to see what effect if any  on 
the draft.  EX:  if this allows for more NCR turning into  players for the 
following year's draft then leave it but if still too many  NCR players are 
be picked because the limit is too low then increase the  number the follow 
year.


ROBERT


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