I completely agree with the statement "I know I am thrilled when my NCR's that 
are on  my 
roster finally get the so called "cup of coffee."  It would be disappointing to 
see a rule change come into effect that stifles that opportunity. It seems that 
there are a lot of opinions on this and any change to the NCR rule is not a 
minor change. I think the best thing to do would be to put 2 or 3 ideas to a 
vote for the entire league to decide on.  B > Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 07:38:23 
-0400
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: New limits to NCR for 2012 / Jack's 2 cents worth
> CC: [email protected]
> 
> Don't want to upset the apple cart...................... Zero is fine with 
> me....I thought it would leave more players in the draft, and thus allow nthe 
> early drafting teams a better shot at the "up and comers"............either 
> way is ok with....... the Yankees................
> 
> ---- [email protected] wrote: 
> > I do not agree with some of these  arguments - and I would hate to see a 
> > rule changed when it has been good for the  league for a long time - 
> > changing 
> > limits as to what qualifies a player as NCR or  uncarded would definitely 
> > change how managers can/could/should evaluate  players(period).   
> >  
> > I think the NCR rule is fine as it  stands and furthermore I believe the 
> > league rules have other areas that need to  be reviewed and possibly 
> > changed 
> > before we adjust a good rule.  And I am  not saying this about my team as 
> > it 
> > stands today - I only have 4 NCRs on my  current roster.  I am saying this 
> > for the sake of the league as a  whole.
> >  
> >  
> > In a message dated 9/9/2011 11:37:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> > [email protected] writes:
> > 
> > actually the term NCR is incorrect I should have said uncarded  players.  
> > Since the game gives a card to everyone that plays at all the  NCR is not 
> > what is effected but the league calls a card.  As for hurting  bad teams it 
> > would do just the reverse as since anyone under the new limits  would count 
> > toward the limit of six (which is not the case now) thus keeps  teams from 
> > draft players with 1 IP and calling that a card thus can still  draft 6 
> > uncarded 
> > players.  As for making cuts more  difficult good!  As Don stated that his 
> > team was so bad that there  were better players on the cut list than he 
> > kept 
> > on his roster and  wanted/needed to draft more than the 3 he was allowed to 
> > draft in the I stink  draft.  Plus then teams making cuts must decide which 
> > he would rather  have (NCR or in my case Johan Santana)!  Again teams that 
> > current  uncarded players and have less the the new limits then YES they 
> > would have to  decide if they want to keep them or cut them for new one/s.  
> > This also  helps the bad teams as they are more NCR for them to choose from 
> > and 
> > since  they draft way before the good teams they have better chance of 
> > getting better  NCR. 
> >  
> > We already have a limit on the uncarded player it is just being  increased. 
> >  You have seen Lou suggesting we increasing it even more and  this is 
> > something I have been asked to do long before now I just have not  
> > remembered 
> > soon enough to change before now. 
> >  
> >  
> > ROBERT
> > 
> > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > From:  [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: New  limits to NCR for 2012 / Jack's 2 cents worth
> > Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011  00:11:56 -0400 (EDT)
> > 
> > Instead of  putting a minimum usage on NCRs - 
> >  
> > If changes are needed and league approves the changes as a whole, then I  
> > would suggest the league define or redefine NCR as (1) a player with no 
> > current card;  or (2) a player that has never been  carded.
> >  
> > Then I would suggest the league change the maximum number a team can  draft 
> > or maintain on a roster.
> > For example I would say if we use the definition Never Been  Carded - I 
> > would suggest we limit teams to 2 or 3 NCR picks a year  and a maximum of 4 
> > - 6 
> > NCR players on a roster at anyone time.
> >  
> > If we use the No Current Card definition - I would  suggest we allow teams 
> > to draft a maximum of 4 NCRs a year and each  team can carry no more 6 - 8  
> > NCRs a year. 
> >  
> > However, changing  the NCR Rule is a dangerous proposition.  The NCR rule 
> > is what makes this  league exciting - especially at draft time and to make 
> > changes would not only  hurt the league in general but it would reduce the 
> > chance of a bad team  could improve itself quickly --- because the manager 
> > would not be  allowed to build as large a farm system.  A change of minimum 
> > AB 
> > or IP  would not only change the draft pool - it would also change each 
> > team's roster  - make decisions on keepers/cut more difficult.  Managers 
> > would 
> > have  to change the way they evaluate players on their current roster based 
> > on 
> >  their playing time.  I know I am thrilled when my NCR's that are on  my 
> > roster finally get the so called "cup of coffee", but under the  potential 
> > new 
> > proposal they may not change their NCR eligibility.  I  would be opposed to 
> > minimum usage playing limits on NCRs,  especially limits that are not 
> > agreed to by the league as a  whole. 
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > In a message dated 9/9/2011 12:07:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> > [email protected] writes:
> > 
> > The current rule for NOT being considered a NCR was/is played in 1 game  or 
> > pitched 1/3 inn.  However I have be asked for couple years now to up  the 
> > limits and I think now is the time to do so.  I havent decided on  the 
> > exact 
> > # yet but wanted to advise now before trades and plans are made  using the 
> > old rule.  At the current time I am leaning toward 10 AB or  IP but I have 
> > been asked to make it higher.  I may but havent made up  my mind on exact 
> > numbers. 
> >  
> > I am thinking maybe increase the limit slowly to see what effect if any  on 
> > the draft.  EX:  if this allows for more NCR turning into  players for the 
> > following year's draft then leave it but if still too many  NCR players are 
> > be picked because the limit is too low then increase the  number the follow 
> > year.
> > 
> > 
> > ROBERT
> > 
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