Hi
      Yes but what if  someone else wanted to draft that NCR a pick 
later... what then .. could fly up  the charts by next years draft. 
          just saying
             blaine
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/9/2012 12:24:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[email protected] writes:

 
Managers, 
I think Ray hit  it on the nose with his comment: 
Whatever the NCR limits are  works for me.  If I was commish (HERE COMES 
REASON I SHOULD NEVER HAVE  ANY DECISION MAKING RESPONSIBILITIES) After draft 
I would calculate usage and  if a team did NOT have enough usage I would 
require them to DROP an NCR and  replace him with a carded guy who gives him 
enough usage. If people still  overuse after starting the season with required 
usage on their roster which  must be maintained after trades then usage 
rule is too LOW!
This is not  rocket science or string theory. Even Penny could figure this  
out. 

thanks 
ray
BKN 
I am in complete agreement with Ray and in fact I would  penalize Draft 
picks in addition…. THE NCR is out of control in my opinion! I  believe years 
back it was two which made it manageable….from all the emails I  see managers 
forget who they even have on their roster as NCR’s. I think we  should have 
40 Rosters Players and a Minor league NCR of 2-5 which is kept  separate 
and the draft for these players is held in January and once a player  has 1 AB 
or IP he no longer can be on the NCR List….you have to move him to  the 40 
man Roster or cut/trade him.  
Thanks to Robert, Jack, Lou and who else ( I am sure I  missed someone) for 
sorting through this stuff! Also, Roster size is 42? NCR’s  TBD? Is that 
correct? 
Don 
Geneva   
PS: The Cubs will take Worley or Collmenter with the first  pick….unless 
some one can give me a better pitcher or hitter?  
 
From:  [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of  
[email protected]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:00  AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: NCR  increased?
>From  Six to Seven...SEVEN in honor of the most beloved player in 
baseball...The  Mick. 
 
 
ray

 
-----Original  Message-----
From: vasquires <[email protected]>
To: NOMBL  <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Jan 9, 2012 8:16 am
Subject:  NCR increased? 
 
 
most  voted to raise the NCR but the # differed.  Therefore we are now 
voting  on what 2 make the max. 
 

 

 
ROBERT

----------  Original Message ----------
From: Gary Brown <[email protected]_ 
(mailto:[email protected]) >
To:  [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) 
Subject:  Re: NCR input
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:41:06 -0800  (PST)     
 
I don't think it is all the non playoff teams  fault.  The playoff teams 
seem to have a better core of  players with plenty of AB at each position.  As 
with my team I took  over last year(Norfolk), I have been struggling to get 
good starting  players at each position because when we are able to keep 30 
 players.  It will take a number of years to rebuild when 30+  players are 
protected. 
 

 
There are teams with 2-3 top starters at 1  position can sit on these 
player without having to play them or play  them out of position.  I understand 
if a emergency situation come  up to play someone out of position, but a 
manager played a player  only rated at 3B at 4 other positions 2B, SS, LF, and 
RF.  MLB  does use some players like this, but not like some managers use  
them.   That’s why there are utility players with many  fielding ratings.
 

 
If the cut down was to 20 with the  max NCR the manager wants to protect, 
then a wider range  of players will be in the draft every year.  Every 
managers  would have to be more selective on which players they want as their 
core 
 20.  My 2�.
 

 
Gary
 
Norfolk
 


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From: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])  <[email protected]_ 
(mailto:[email protected]) >
Subject:  Re: NCR input
To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) 
Date:  Saturday, December 31, 2011, 11:55 AM 
 
 
I would be curious, Robert, seems like teams who  made playoffs are voting 
against raising it to 8 saying it would not  help the teams not making 
playoffs
 

 
WHILE the teams like me know otherwise who  did not make playoffs. I 
suggest listening to the teams that do not  make playoffs on whether or not 8 
NCRs 
would help a non playoff  team. 
 

 
Who cannot field team with 33 players to  cover usage all season? Teams 
that are under AB and IP really have no  excuse considering all the playing 
time available from players left in  draft. The amount of NCRs available at 8 
make no difference. Usage  problems are separate issues. I could assemble a 
team each year made  up of 33 players left in draft after completed that 
could meet  our usage requirements for season. Blaming NCRs will not solve the  
problem of over usage. It is a DRAFTING problem. Drafting a catcher  with 41 
ABs when you need one with 200 ABs who is available is the  problem. I 
would like to address usage problems as well but veiling it  as an NCR problem 
is wrong way to look at it. There are SIMPLE draft  rules in other leagues 
that could solve problem in our league, such as  all usage required must be 
taken in draft by end of 8th  round.
 

 
Anyway, I would say nothing except I saw a trend of  playoff teams almost 
all going against an increase in  NCRs.
 

 
Also, I almost have ALL my player usage covered  with my roster already of 
25 players like major leagues do. I only  need to draft 3 relievers 
somewhere and I can draft 9 other guys  no matter how much playing time they 
have 
based on future  potential.
 

 
Research has shown that it takes 4 years average  for a team to rebuild and 
be competitive in a healthy league our size.  I am suspicious of leagues 
that have same people in playoffs or first  place for 10 years straight. It 
does not mean something is wrong,  after all there are superior players. But 
all other leagues I know and  have played in do not have dynasties. Do the 
rules in this league  favor playoff teams that are making decisions for non 
playoff teams on  how to rebuild?
 

 
Anyway, either way, I get youth from NCRs or low  innings and AB guys 
because I take the time to make SURE I have  playing time covered BEFORE the 
draft. I just find usage problems  interesting. The rules our league have for 
usage are MINIMUM levels,  not RECOMMENDED levels. I live to exceed those 
limits. What needs to  be increased is either the minimum levels of usage or 
allowing players  to be used at 110% of MLB. Anyway, too much talk, I just been 
working  so hard and will finally have a day off Monday to relax and pick 
up  pieces for 2012. We have a water leak and the guy can't come to fix it  
till Monday. It is a trickle but nothing we can  do.
 

 
Whatever the NCR limits are works for me.  If  I was commish (HERE COMES 
REASON I SHOULD NEVER HAVE ANY DECISION  MAKING RESPONSIBILITIES) After draft 
I would calculate usage and if a  team did NOT have enough usage I would 
require them to DROP an NCR and  replace him with a carded guy who gives him 
enough usage. If people  still overuse after starting the season with required 
usage on their  roster which must be maintained after trades then usage 
rule is too  LOW!
This is not rocket science or string theory. Even Penny could  figure this 
out.
 

thanks
 
 
ray
BKN

 
-----Original  Message-----
From: suelou22 <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >
To: NOMBL  <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >
Cc:  john arcieri <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >
Sent:  Sat, Dec 31, 2011 9:53 am
Subject: Re: NCR  input 

 This is the main reason we should not increase the NC players..we need to 
draft more players with IP or ABs to get through the season in 
respectability.....Lou---- john arcieri <[email protected]_ 
(http://us.mc1810.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]) > wrote: > My 
inputis  it should go up 
to 6 NCR since we have 41 man roster.  Also have you thought about a throw 
back draft.  A throw back draft is the next day after the draft you are 
allowed to drop 1 player and pick up 1 player that wasn't drafted.  This gives 
teams that are under ABs or IPs to pick up a player they need for usage.  It 
would be a e-mail draft first e-mail sent gets that player.  It seems like 
every year a few teams have not enough ABs and IPs.  John > > > > 
________________________________ > From: "[email protected]_ 
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<[email protected]_ 
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[email protected]_ 
(http://us.mc1810.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected])  > Sent: 
Friday, December 30, 2011 1:26 PM > Subject: NCR input > 
> > would anyone else like to voice their thoughts on uncarded players 
(anyone concidered carded - under 10 PA or ip) or NCR (players still concider 
rookies not meeting the limits of NOMBL)? > > ROBERT > > ---------- Forwarded 
Message ---------- > From: [email protected]_ 
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drops, draft picks, ncr, roster, NCR input > Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 
16:13:25 -0500 (EST) > > > NOMBL DROPS > 1. RUSSELL BRANYAN > 2.  TIM BYRDAK > 
3.  
MATT DIAZ > 4.  BILL HALL > 5. AARON HILL > 6. BRANDON INGE > 7. RYAN KALISH 
> 8. VIN MAZZARO > 9. COREY PATTERSON > 10. MATT PURKE (ncr) > 11. MAX 
RAMIREZ > 12. BKN#10 DRAFT PICK >   > MY DRAFT PICKS(12)- BKN #1-9, NEW #5, 
BUZZ 
#6, #7 >   > ROSTER (29) >   > NCR (4) > 1. GERRIT COLE > 2. BRYCE HARPER > 
3. JURICKSON PROFAR > 4. GEORGE SPRINGER >   >   > HITTERS (15) > 1. CLINT 
BARMES > 2. PETER BOURJOS > 3.  JAMEY CARROLL > 4.  IKE DAVIS > 5.  ADAM 
JONES > 6.  JONATHON LUCROY > 7.  JESUS MONTERO > 8.  LOGAN MORRISON > 9.  SEAN 
RODRIGUEZ > 10.  JIMMY ROLLINS > 11.  CARLOS RUIZ > 12.  GABBY SANCHEZ > 
13.  NICK SWISHER > 14.  JOSH WILLINGHAM > 15.  KEVIN YOUKILIS >   > PITCHERS  
(10) > 1. CLAY BUCHHOLZ > 2.  JHOULYS CHACIN > 3.  DEREK HOLLAND > 4.  
KAMERON LOE > 5. KYLE LOHSE > 6.  JAMES SHIELDS > 7.  TIM STAUFFER > 8.  JOSE 
VALVERDE > 9.  RYAN WEBB > 10.  KERRY WOOD > as a team we would be in favor of 
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