I think penaltes or rewards should be handed down for excessive overusage since we are increasing the NCR limit. I didn't count the teams exactly but I think over half the league breaks this rule every year with no consequences. There is simply no incentive for teams not to take the maximum NCR's and disregard usage rules. If penalties are not handed down then mayby a sandwhich draft after the first round for all the teams that did not have excesive overusage. This would replace each teams last pick in the draft. I as well as other managers deserve something to be done for working so hard to keep NO overusage every year. BrandtFrom: [email protected] Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 18:01:51 +0000 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: NCR increased?
Don I do like your idea. If someone else wanted that NCR then they should have drafted him sooner. It adds strategy to the draft. ROBERT ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Don Sprague <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: RE: NCR increased? Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 12:24:37 -0500 Managers, I think Ray hit it on the nose with his comment: Whatever the NCR limits are works for me. If I was commish (HERE COMES REASON I SHOULD NEVER HAVE ANY DECISION MAKING RESPONSIBILITIES) After draft I would calculate usage and if a team did NOT have enough usage I would require them to DROP an NCR and replace him with a carded guy who gives him enough usage. If people still overuse after starting the season with required usage on their roster which must be maintained after trades then usage rule is too LOW! This is not rocket science or string theory. Even Penny could figure this out. thanksray BKN I am in complete agreement with Ray and in fact I would penalize Draft picks in addition…. THE NCR is out of control in my opinion! I believe years back it was two which made it manageable….from all the emails I see managers forget who they even have on their roster as NCR’s. I think we should have 40 Rosters Players and a Minor league NCR of 2-5 which is kept separate and the draft for these players is held in January and once a player has 1 AB or IP he no longer can be on the NCR List….you have to move him to the 40 man Roster or cut/trade him. Thanks to Robert, Jack, Lou and who else ( I am sure I missed someone) for sorting through this stuff! Also, Roster size is 42? NCR’s TBD? Is that correct? DonGeneva PS: The Cubs will take Worley or Collmenter with the first pick….unless some one can give me a better pitcher or hitter? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: NCR increased? From Six to Seven...SEVEN in honor of the most beloved player in baseball...The Mick.ray -----Original Message----- From: vasquires <[email protected]> To: NOMBL <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Jan 9, 2012 8:16 am Subject: NCR increased?most voted to raise the NCR but the # differed. Therefore we are now voting on what 2 make the max. ROBERT ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Gary Brown <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: NCR input Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:41:06 -0800 (PST)I don't think it is all the non playoff teams fault. The playoff teams seem to have a better core of players with plenty of AB at each position. As with my team I took over last year(Norfolk), I have been struggling to get good starting players at each position because when we are able to keep 30 players. It will take a number of years to rebuild when 30+ players are protected. There are teams with 2-3 top starters at 1 position can sit on these player without having to play them or play them out of position. I understand if a emergency situation come up to play someone out of position, but a manager played a player only rated at 3B at 4 other positions 2B, SS, LF, and RF. MLB does use some players like this, but not like some managers use them. That’s why there are utility players with many fielding ratings. If the cut down was to 20 with the max NCR the manager wants to protect, then a wider range of players will be in the draft every year. Every managers would have to be more selective on which players they want as their core 20. My 2�. GaryNorfolk --- On Sat, 12/31/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: NCR input To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, December 31, 2011, 11:55 AMI would be curious, Robert, seems like teams who made playoffs are voting against raising it to 8 saying it would not help the teams not making playoffs WHILE the teams like me know otherwise who did not make playoffs. I suggest listening to the teams that do not make playoffs on whether or not 8 NCRs would help a non playoff team. Who cannot field team with 33 players to cover usage all season? Teams that are under AB and IP really have no excuse considering all the playing time available from players left in draft. The amount of NCRs available at 8 make no difference. Usage problems are separate issues. I could assemble a team each year made up of 33 players left in draft after completed that could meet our usage requirements for season. Blaming NCRs will not solve the problem of over usage. It is a DRAFTING problem. Drafting a catcher with 41 ABs when you need one with 200 ABs who is available is the problem. I would like to address usage problems as well but veiling it as an NCR problem is wrong way to look at it. There are SIMPLE draft rules in other leagues that could solve problem in our league, such as all usage required must be taken in draft by end of 8th round. Anyway, I would say nothing except I saw a trend of playoff teams almost all going against an increase in NCRs. Also, I almost have ALL my player usage covered with my roster already of 25 players like major leagues do. I only need to draft 3 relievers somewhere and I can draft 9 other guys no matter how much playing time they have based on future potential. Research has shown that it takes 4 years average for a team to rebuild and be competitive in a healthy league our size. I am suspicious of leagues that have same people in playoffs or first place for 10 years straight. It does not mean something is wrong, after all there are superior players. But all other leagues I know and have played in do not have dynasties. Do the rules in this league favor playoff teams that are making decisions for non playoff teams on how to rebuild? Anyway, either way, I get youth from NCRs or low innings and AB guys because I take the time to make SURE I have playing time covered BEFORE the draft. I just find usage problems interesting. The rules our league have for usage are MINIMUM levels, not RECOMMENDED levels. I live to exceed those limits. What needs to be increased is either the minimum levels of usage or allowing players to be used at 110% of MLB. Anyway, too much talk, I just been working so hard and will finally have a day off Monday to relax and pick up pieces for 2012. We have a water leak and the guy can't come to fix it till Monday. It is a trickle but nothing we can do. Whatever the NCR limits are works for me. If I was commish (HERE COMES REASON I SHOULD NEVER HAVE ANY DECISION MAKING RESPONSIBILITIES) After draft I would calculate usage and if a team did NOT have enough usage I would require them to DROP an NCR and replace him with a carded guy who gives him enough usage. If people still overuse after starting the season with required usage on their roster which must be maintained after trades then usage rule is too LOW! This is not rocket science or string theory. Even Penny could figure this out. thanksray BKN -----Original Message----- From: suelou22 <[email protected]> To: NOMBL <[email protected]> Cc: john arcieri <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Dec 31, 2011 9:53 am Subject: Re: NCR input This is the main reason we should not increase the NC players..we need to draft more players with IP or ABs to get through the season in respectability.....Lou---- john arcieri <[email protected]> wrote: > My inputis it should go up to 6 NCR since we have 41 man roster. Also have you thought about a throw back draft. A throw back draft is the next day after the draft you are allowed to drop 1 player and pick up 1 player that wasn't drafted. This gives teams that are under ABs or IPs to pick up a player they need for usage. It would be a e-mail draft first e-mail sent gets that player. It seems like every year a few teams have not enough ABs and IPs. John > > > > ________________________________ > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 1:26 PM > Subject: NCR input > > > would anyone else like to voice their thoughts on uncarded players (anyone concidered carded - under 10 PA or ip) or NCR (players still concider rookies not meeting the limits of NOMBL)? > > ROBERT > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: bkn drops, draft picks, ncr, roster, NCR input > Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 16:13:25 -0500 (EST) > > > NOMBL DROPS > 1. RUSSELL BRANYAN > 2. TIM BYRDAK > 3. MATT DIAZ > 4. BILL HALL > 5. AARON HILL > 6. BRANDON INGE > 7. RYAN KALISH > 8. VIN MAZZARO > 9. COREY PATTERSON > 10. MATT PURKE (ncr) > 11. MAX RAMIREZ > 12. BKN#10 DRAFT PICK > > MY DRAFT PICKS(12)- BKN #1-9, NEW #5, BUZZ #6, #7 > > ROSTER (29) > > NCR (4) > 1. GERRIT COLE > 2. BRYCE HARPER > 3. JURICKSON PROFAR > 4. 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