On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Edward Diehl <[email protected]> wrote:

> If you want to use gigasampler or SFZ there is no substitution for
> linuxsampler.   I know there is something called "calfbox" but that seems
> to be in an early stage of development, and I'm not sure if it involves
> using linuxsampler or not.
>
> My current practice with linuxsampler and NSW is to use Ardour3 as the lv2
> host along with NSM-session manager.   Ardour3 does have NSM-session
> support.   I think this set up has a lot of attractive features, though, it
> does not work entirely flawlessly at present.   What is attractive is that
> by hosting linuxsampler (or other lv2 instruments) is that the you can
> easily add other effect plugins to the tracks and can set up other busses,
> like a reverb bus, and the entire setup is saved.  I use this setup for
> live play, and route my keyboard to a lv2 tracks in Ardour, and can easily
> switch instruments through the midi enable button on each track in Ardour3.
>    Also, you can turn off effects very easily via their enable/disable
> buttons in Ardour3.  You can do a lot just within Ardour and only need NSM
> if you want to use other apps, which I do.
>
> As far as I can see using Ardour3 offers a lot of convenience which I have
> not found in other types of setup.   You could also use qtractor as a lv2
> host but it is more work to set up the midi routing, and there is no way to
> disable midi input on tracks like Ardour3.      Or I could run instruments
> as standalone and use NSM mixer, but NSM mixer only supports Ladspa
> plugins, and there is no way to disable instruments easily, except by
> muting, which is not a good method because you still use CPU when muted,
> whereas in Ardour you can disable the midi input, so CPU is not used if an
> instrument is disabled.
>
> As for the shortfalls of this Ardour3 approach - Ardour3 is bit complex
> and requires more system resources, but if you have recent hardware I think
> it is not bad, and I am able to run stably at 4 ms (roundtrip) latency.
>
> Ardour3 + NSM + linuxsampler does not always work perfectly together but
> I'm not sure where the problem lies.
> Frequently, Ardour3, when started by NSM, claims to be recovering from a
> crash even though I saved the Ardour3 sessions before terminating the
> previous NSM session.
>
> Another issue is that Ardour3 seems to have problems crashing when using
> more than about 5-6 linuxsampler tracks.   I use a modified linuxsampler
> lv2 plugin which on has 2 output channels, rather than the default 32.   So
> it would appear that there is some issue between Ardour3 and linuxsampler
> when the track count is too high.   Possibly this is related to me loading
> some large samples (I use 2  6 GB piano samples), though my memory usage
> does not seem maxed out, but this has nothing to do with NSM session.
>
>
Ha. I strongly suggest you try lisaloqt. It does not involve LinuxSampler
in any way. Also, if you need a stand alone LV2 host, try Carla, it's quite
a bit more stable and lighter weight than Ardour, and it also supports NSM.

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