Awesome. Thanks so much everyone -- I've had a quick look at lisaloqt and carla, and both look perfect.
Can I just say again how impressive the non system is? I went from Protools to Reaper and thought Reaper was lean and fast. Then I ran Reaper under wine and lost many of its advantages. I don't find Ardour intuitive, and it seems slow and unstable. What a breath of fresh air is the non system! I totally love that it leverages jack for its signal routing too. Cheers, Gus Angus Wallace Ph 0450 443 633 [email protected] On 28 June 2013 02:50, Edward Diehl <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for the heads-up on lisaloqt, I'll give it a whirl sometime. I use > some SFZ's but I also use gigasampler pianos from Sampletekk and so will > still need linuxsampler. I've suggested to Sampletekk they offer SFZ's but > instead they are moving to Kontakt. > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 12:13 PM, J. Liles <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Edward Diehl <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> If you want to use gigasampler or SFZ there is no substitution for >>> linuxsampler. I know there is something called "calfbox" but that seems >>> to be in an early stage of development, and I'm not sure if it involves >>> using linuxsampler or not. >>> >>> My current practice with linuxsampler and NSW is to use Ardour3 as the >>> lv2 host along with NSM-session manager. Ardour3 does have NSM-session >>> support. I think this set up has a lot of attractive features, though, it >>> does not work entirely flawlessly at present. What is attractive is that >>> by hosting linuxsampler (or other lv2 instruments) is that the you can >>> easily add other effect plugins to the tracks and can set up other busses, >>> like a reverb bus, and the entire setup is saved. I use this setup for >>> live play, and route my keyboard to a lv2 tracks in Ardour, and can easily >>> switch instruments through the midi enable button on each track in Ardour3. >>> Also, you can turn off effects very easily via their enable/disable >>> buttons in Ardour3. You can do a lot just within Ardour and only need NSM >>> if you want to use other apps, which I do. >>> >>> As far as I can see using Ardour3 offers a lot of convenience which I >>> have not found in other types of setup. You could also use qtractor as a >>> lv2 host but it is more work to set up the midi routing, and there is no >>> way to disable midi input on tracks like Ardour3. Or I could run >>> instruments as standalone and use NSM mixer, but NSM mixer only supports >>> Ladspa plugins, and there is no way to disable instruments easily, except >>> by muting, which is not a good method because you still use CPU when muted, >>> whereas in Ardour you can disable the midi input, so CPU is not used if an >>> instrument is disabled. >>> >>> As for the shortfalls of this Ardour3 approach - Ardour3 is bit complex >>> and requires more system resources, but if you have recent hardware I think >>> it is not bad, and I am able to run stably at 4 ms (roundtrip) latency. >>> >>> Ardour3 + NSM + linuxsampler does not always work perfectly together but >>> I'm not sure where the problem lies. >>> Frequently, Ardour3, when started by NSM, claims to be recovering from a >>> crash even though I saved the Ardour3 sessions before terminating the >>> previous NSM session. >>> >>> Another issue is that Ardour3 seems to have problems crashing when using >>> more than about 5-6 linuxsampler tracks. I use a modified linuxsampler >>> lv2 plugin which on has 2 output channels, rather than the default 32. So >>> it would appear that there is some issue between Ardour3 and linuxsampler >>> when the track count is too high. Possibly this is related to me loading >>> some large samples (I use 2 6 GB piano samples), though my memory usage >>> does not seem maxed out, but this has nothing to do with NSM session. >>> >>> >> Ha. I strongly suggest you try lisaloqt. It does not involve LinuxSampler >> in any way. Also, if you need a stand alone LV2 host, try Carla, it's quite >> a bit more stable and lighter weight than Ardour, and it also supports NSM. >> >> > > > -- > Edward Diehl > Associate Research Scientist > 367C West Hall Office: 734-936-9662 > University of Michigan Fax: 734-936-6529 > 450 Church St Sec'y: 734-615-5811 > Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1120 Email: [email protected] > >
