Fillipe, when you announce a fork, your first responsibility (and the
expectation of the readers) is that you will provide justification for the
necessity of said fork. The justification you appear to provide is that Non
is not "of the community" and is full of "ads" and "spyware."

I can think of no other way to interpret that announcement, even with your
claim to innocence.


On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 4:57 PM Filipe Coelho <[email protected]> wrote:

> ouch, you thought that meant for you? :(
>
> sorry, terrible wording then.
> That sentence feels to me like the usual "boiler-plate" for an opensource
> program and why it can be good.
>
> I guess the idea was to sorta write the first info in a more formal,
> marketing-like speech.
> But didnt come that way to you and likely a few others.
>
> I can assure you it was not the intention.
>
>
> On 04/01/21 00:50, J. Liles wrote:
>
> My mistake. It says "spyware".
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 4:48 PM Filipe Coelho <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Can you please clarify?
>>
>> The announcement is at
>> https://lists.linuxaudio.org/archives/linux-audio-announce/2020-June/002820.html
>>
>> Where is it implied that non-session-manager is malware?
>>
>> I do realize your name was not in that announcement.
>> This was not intentional.
>>
>> I am sorry for that, you absolutely and clearly deserve credit for NSM.
>>
>>
>> On 04/01/21 00:29, J. Liles wrote:
>>
>> Indeed. In the LAA announcement post he implied that non-session-manager
>> malware as well.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 4:22 PM Marc Lavallée <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I did not know about New Session Manager, only a bit about Non.
>>>
>>> Now I'm reading this page:
>>> https://linuxaudio.github.io/new-session-manager/
>>>
>>> The description looks like Non is almost a proprietary software, and
>>> that New is trying to "fix that" as a "community version". Non is released
>>> as a GPL2 software, so clearly there was no need to fork it as a "community
>>> version". It there's a better reason (that could be mentioned)?
>>>
>>> GPL2 does not mean "free lunch"; there's other licenses for that.
>>>
>>> Marc
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 21-01-03 à 19 h 08, Filipe Coelho a écrit :
>>>
>>> On 03/01/21 23:57, rosea.grammostola wrote:
>>>
>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>> On Monday, January 4, 2021 12:47 AM, Filipe Coelho <[email protected]>
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> 1. the new-session-manager fork was done by Nils, not me. I appreciated
>>> the effort and contributed some little things afterwards.
>>>
>>> The idea for a fork was yours Filipe. You're fully responsible for it,
>>> together with Nils. There is no point in denying or downplaying your role.
>>>
>>> Huh? Where did you get this from?
>>>
>>> I approved the idea of a fork, yes. Not sure if I was the first one to
>>> suggest it, I am pretty sure a bunch of people thought about it too.
>>> I did say that I would maintain the "old" GUI if needed, you can point
>>> the finger at me for that.
>>>
>>> But wait, just because I have an idea for something, how does it make me
>>> responsible for it?
>>> It would not have happened if others did not have interest on it.
>>>
>>> Stop making it all on me.
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>

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