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Today's Topics:
1. [notepad-plus - Plugin Development] RE: New plugin - CharM
(Character Map) upload (SourceForge.net)
2. [notepad-plus - Plugin Development] RE: New plugin - CharM
(Character Map) upload (SourceForge.net)
3. [notepad-plus - Plugin Development] RE: New plugin - CharM
(Character Map) upload (SourceForge.net)
4. [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE: Full Justification --
possible? (SourceForge.net)
5. [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE: Full Justification --
possible? (SourceForge.net)
6. [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE: Full Justification --
possible? (SourceForge.net)
7. [notepad-plus - Help] RE: noepad++ unidentifed program in
vista home (SourceForge.net)
8. [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE: Full Justification --
possible? (SourceForge.net)
9. [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE: Proxy Error (SourceForge.net)
10. [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE: Full Justification --
possible? (SourceForge.net)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:50:01 -0800
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Plugin Development] RE:
New plugin - CharM (Character Map) upload
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By: nobody
Martijn:
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I'll work on converting CharM
over to unicode first, then Simple Script later.
It looks like TTntMemo won't work for Simple Script. It's no longer freeware,
and at any rate, unless it's distributed under a license that allows it to be
redistributed in a project under the GPL, I don't think I can use it.
That's one area that confuses me about the GPL. The license allows you to use
a non-free editing environment and compiler (Delphi is a perfect example) as
long as the source code is free. But non-standard Delphi components blur the
distinction between the editing environment and source code. If you add them
to a project, they get compiled into the finished product, even if you don't
write a single line of code for them. That's why I haven't used any third-party
components.
I'll look for other solutions though. The rest of your post is very helpful.
Thanks again.
fidvo
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Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:15:16 -0800
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Plugin Development] RE:
New plugin - CharM (Character Map) upload
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By: nobody
>Could we have a toolbar icon please?
I plan to add one. It's just a matter of getting around to designing an icon.
>I'd like to see an amodal dialog as well or dock it.
I'm a big fan of dockable plugins, but I'm not sure it's a good fit for this
one, for two reasons.
1) How do you tell it when you want it to update the button captions? Doing
it in real time would be a pain because it would tend to slow down Notepad++
because it would be constantly checking to see if there are options for the
currently highlighted text. Better to have it check only when you pull up the
window or type in the "Text to replace" box at the top. By the way, if you
set a shortcut for it, it becomes very fast to replace a character (Highlight,
hit your key combination, click a button).
2) There's the issue of screen real-estate if it's dockable. In other plug-ins,
you can often rearrange the controls to make it fit nicely on the side or the
bottom of the screen, but the nature of CharM really lends itself more to a
square window.
I'm open to discussion on these points, so if both of these issues can be
resolved,
I don't mind changing it.
>By the way you can delete/replace the text in the "Set" pull down. It still
works but not sure you're supposed to do that.
Good point. I'll fix it in the next version.
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Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:19:47 -0800
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Plugin Development] RE:
New plugin - CharM (Character Map) upload
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By: fidvo
By the way, the above post is mine; I forgot to log in first. I just woke up
from a nap, so I'm still a little groggy.
fidvo
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Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:53:23 -0800
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE: Full
Justification -- possible?
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By: fidvo
>Am I the only one left on the planet who still thinks fully justified text
looks more profesional?
Yes.
I also think spelling "professional" correctly looks more professional.
Sorry. I just couldn't pass up that opportunity; it was way too easy.
Actually I was going to defend you by pointing out that justified text is used
in a lot of print media such as newspapers. Then to confirm it I grabbed some
newspapers out of my trash, and as it turned out, none of them are justified.
Maybe it's going out of style.
Anyway, Notepad++ was designed with programmers in mind, and for programmers,
non-justified text with a proportional font is usually better. It helps to
line things up in columns, which is especially nice for viewing logs and data
files. Full justification would just get in the way.
My suggestion is just to get used to non-fully-justified text. I had a similar
issue with working with a proportional font. I'm an amateur author, and I
actually
use Notepad++ for my writing. Non-proportional fonts like Times New Roman feel
more "comfortable" to me, but I loved all the capabilities of Notepad++ so I
had to make a choice. After a while I got used to using a proportional font
for my writing, and now it doesn't bother me any more.
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Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:21:52 -0800
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE: Full
Justification -- possible?
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By: nobody
Thanks for your reply.
Npp is chock full of features that "make no sense for a plain-text editor",
beginning with its multitude of programmer features. Syntax highlighting,
autocompletion and encoding support, just to name three, have nothing to do
with "plain-text editing".
Npp also ships with a hex editor, even though hex editing has nothing to do
with plain text. TextFX has a whole submenu devoted to "HTML tidying" -- yet
HTML is far from "plain text" -- and another with over two dozen conversion
options: convert text to binary/Hex64/code command; ROT13 encoding; submit to
WC3 validation; export to RTF, Wikipedia search, Launch in Firefox -- are all
useless for plain text editing.
I really don't think Npp is just a "plain-text editor". In any case there *are*
plain text editors that can do full justification -- everything from Emacs to
Pico to Qedit/TSE, to Vi/Vim implementations like Cream -- despite most of these
being, like Npp, primarily programmers' editors. And what, really, is the
difference
between auto-indenting, which Npp does support, and line-centering that would
cause the one, but not the other, to fall under useful plain-text features?
As to MLA guidelines (which have nothing to do with plain-text editing), they
haven't kept the likes of Word, OppenOffice, or a slew of text editors (see
above) from offering justification. And I'm having difficulty in finding a book
on my bookshelves that *isn't* fully justified, despite their being professional
publications.
CJ
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Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:13:22 -0800
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE: Full
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> I also think spelling "professional" correctly looks more professional.
:-) Yeah, I noticed that but of course, as Murphy would have it, not till after
I hit "Post".
> I was going to defend you by pointing out that justified text is used in a
lot of print
> media such as newspapers.
The newspapers I read are fully justified; notwithstanding that, however, I
think newspapers may not be a fair bellweather, as their narrow column format
tends not to be conducive to fully justified text (whitespace-to-text ratios
go up as column width goes down). As for professional news publications, Time
and Newsweek use full justification, as well as (as I noted in a previous post)
pretty much every book publishing house. Which kinda suggests the answer to
my original question is "Not hardly".
> for programmers, non-justified text with a proportional font is usually
better.
I think you've got "proportional" and "non-proportional" switched around.
Times-New
Roman is proportional. Courier is non-proportional (aka monospaced).
> Full justification would just get in the way.
So would text wrapping. Just turn it off when you don't need it.
> My suggestion is just to get used to non-fully-justified text.
No, I think the answer is to find a text editor that has the features I want
(it's not as if justification can't be done, after all, and relatively easily
-- the algorithms are already out there), and two of the most important to me
are column mode (which Npp does support) and full justification. Given that
other text editors *do* support justification, I can't be the only one who wants
it.
I *do* love Npp; this is the only "biggie" it lacks for me.
CJ
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Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:08:19 -0800
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Help] RE: noepad++
unidentifed program in vista home
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By: jorgeavilam
Hi,
There is a way to disable this warning. (this applies for all windows vista
versions)
Basically what is happening is that Notepad++ is launching an additional program
when it startup. The program is the notepad++ autoupdater.
You can disable this going to:
Settings Menu -> Preferences -> MISC tab -> UNCHECK the "Enable Notepad++
auto-updater"
Close and open Notepad++ again, it should not give you the warning...
Regards,
Jorge Avila
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Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:21:08 -0800
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE: Full
Justification -- possible?
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By: nobody
Notepad++ is intended to be a code editor. So this justifies the presence of
syntax highlighting etc. Depending on how you look at it, you may also see HTML
files as plain text files. It is possible to edit HTML as plain text. So please
do keep saying that there are a lot of features in Notepad++ YOU don't need.
Perhaps, if justification is SO important to you, this may trigger you into
learning some programming and do the job yourself. No-one is stopping you,
although
a lot may doubt the number of users that really need this feature.
Can you think of any convenient way to have an editor have a column mode in
combination with your justification???
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Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:51:29 -0800
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE:
Proxy Error
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By: nobody
See discussion in the GUP-project
http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1882059&forum_id=752729
Proxy error in version 1.5 is corrected in version 1.6 of GUP. You can manually
install version 1.6 instead of 1.5 in the updater directory.
Regards AJ
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Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 02:56:01 -0800
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE: Full
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By: nobody
> Notepad++ is intended to be a code editor.
Almost correct. The Notepad++ homepage on Sourceforge advertises it as both
a "source code editor" and "Notepad replacement" (hence the name, presumably).
If it's "just" a code editor, then why does it support text wrapping? I can't
think of a feature that'd screw up one's source code faster.
> So this justifies the presence of syntax highlighting etc
Which was , of course, my point. A previous anonymous poster suggested Npp was
just a "plain text editor", in response to which I pointed out the plethora
of programmer features.
> So please do keep saying that there are a lot of features in Notepad++ YOU
don't need
I don't recall saying that. I highlighted the programmer features in response
to the implication that Npp was just a "plain text editor".
In any case, yes of course Npp has features I don't need. It has features YOU
don't need. It probably has features even Don himself doesn't need. How's that
relevant?
> Perhaps, if justification is SO important to you, this may trigger you into
> learning some programming and do the job yourself.
No more than a broken fuel pump would goad me into becoming a mechanic just
to fix my car.
> a lot may doubt the number of users that really need this feature.
Or you, at least :-). In any case, there *are* text editors which do text
justification, which leads me to conclude there *are* users who desire the
feature.
If they're not part of the Npp, so be it. (Of course, that may be *why* they're
not; ya never know.)
> Can you think of any convenient way to have an editor
> have a column mode in combination with your justification???
As I've already said, I'm not a programmer, so the obvious answer here is, no
*I* can't; or at least I might be able to diagram out a flowchart, but I'd have
no clue how to code it. However, since it has been done, then it *can* be done;
it's not a technical issue that stands in the way of Npp doing justification.
It's the desire of the community and of Don.
And if the will of the community doesn't desire it, or Don doesn't want to code
it, that's fine. As a member of the Npp community, I'm simply suggesting a
feature
I'd like to see. Isn't that what the community does?
Thanks for your feedback,
CJ
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