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1. [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] The program must not impose
NOR HAMPER smthng (SourceForge.net)
2. [notepad-plus - Help] RE: Notepad++ consistently crashing 5-6
times/day (SourceForge.net)
3. [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE: Version 5.4.5 is
released (SourceForge.net)
4. [notepad-plus - Help] RE: Notepad++ consistently crashing 5-6
times/day (SourceForge.net)
5. [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE: Character Encoding -
Change view instantly (SourceForge.net)
6. [notepad-plus - Help] RE: plain text (SourceForge.net)
7. [notepad-plus - Help] Auto-close single and duble quotes
(SourceForge.net)
8. [notepad-plus - Help] RE: Actionscript syntax highlighting
(SourceForge.net)
9. [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE: The program must not
impose NOR HAMPER smthng (SourceForge.net)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:12:26 +0000
From: "SourceForge.net" <nore...@sourceforge.net>
Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] The
program must not impose NOR HAMPER smthng
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By: michelmerlin
Thx to "christian cuvier" and "Don HO" for their recent inputs (2009-07-10 13:03
and 2009-07-09 14:53 GMT).
1) You write ? "save document" action should be triggered IF AND ONLY IF the
document is modified ?.
This is OK for the action *by the program* (i.e. by the programmer): the
programmer
should NOT violate the user's will or expectation, so he should NOT "trigger"
(a perfectly appropriate word, which implies automatically, blindly) a Save
or anything else, unless in perfect compliance with the users will. *The user*
is on the scene, he is the owner, if he does "Ctrl+S", then he wants to save;
the program must just obey and stay silent. In case you (the program or
programmer)
think he may have done it by error, then just open a dialog "Are you sure you
want to Save?", but don't VIOLATE the user's will; and if you do violate, then
at least don't add another layer of offense by making it SILENTLY.
In addition, obeying a "Ctrl+S" command "IF AND ONLY IF the document is
modified",
is more complicated than obeying *anyway*. Then, in addition to violating user's
will, it adds complication hence risk (and in facts, *assurance*) of errors
later.
In short, there is NO REASON, the document being changed or not, to violate
user's will when he wants to save. Sorry for being forced to elaborate on the
obvious...
2) BTW, this https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1929727&forum_id=
331753 page is now rendered awfully in IE6. It renders correctly in Safari
4.0.2.
I guess a BACKGROUND REPEAT X is now executed by error in IE6. Probably still
another occurrence of "complication induces errors". Complicated sites are
forced
either to hacks and special CSS files to handle IE6, or to drop IE6 support.
They should instead code efficiently, which oppositely to blind guru stances,
does NOT cause problems in IE6
3) The posts on this page are shuffled in UNCHRONOLOGICAL order, which makes
hard to follow the thread. Sorry if I missed something or someone.
4) BTW, thx to "Dustin Smith" 2009-07-12 08:23, I agree totally and warmly
(please
anyone don't draw wrong conclusion from my being direct and open when I spend
more time on things that need IMO to be fixed or improved, than on thanking
for all the very good already existing)
5) BTW2, to "Dustin Smith" 2009-07-12 08:35 (Oh! I just discover it's the same
author! unbelievable...): the little search issue I anecdotally addressed was
just an example to my main purpose; it should not have made you "Totally wigged
out" (not my words!). In addition, should you test before writing, you would
have noticed that Notepad++ team did take this little issue seriously and did
correct it (still another instance where I had no idea or time or opportunity
to thank them as they deserve).
Versailles, Wed 15 Jul 2009 16:12:25 +0200
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:03:33 +0000
From: "SourceForge.net" <nore...@sourceforge.net>
Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Help] RE: Notepad++
consistently crashing 5-6 times/day
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By: joleg74
Hey Mike.
Can you repro that consistently? (50%+ of the time, let's say?)
I'll try to generate a large file and reproduce it on my side later today.
joce.
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:06:57 +0000
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE:
Version 5.4.5 is released
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By: joleg74
My totally non-Pascal-expert eyes fail to see the problem here. Syntax colouring
looks ok to me, although it's clearly not to your liking.
Could you elaborate on the problem, pls?
thanks,
joce.
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:13:03 +0000
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Help] RE: Notepad++
consistently crashing 5-6 times/day
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By: mike_boulet
I have tried. The only pattern I have found is that I hit CTRL-S to save and
then it stops working. I notice many of the times I hit CTRL-S then immediately
after, I started hitting up and down arrows to go somewhere in the code. That
is when I notice it is locked up at 50% CPU. Doesn't happen as often in 5.4.1.
File size doesn't seem to be the issue. typical files I have been working with
are round 8K. I will try to pay more attention to the file size the next time
it happens.
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:43:56 +0000
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE:
Character Encoding - Change view instantly
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By: cchris
> In Notepad++ I found nothing but "Notepad++ > Settings > Preferences > Global
> Localization", which is not clear about what exactly it does, and which
> probably
does NOT address charsets (or it would show it clearly, as other programs are
doing).
This configuration item relates to the localisation of the Notepad++
application.
Changing it causes menu entries, dialog box labels etc to conform to the chosen
language. It works on he fly - you don't need to close the Preferences dialog
to see the effect.
The term "localisation" is the precise, technical term which designates the
process of choosing the language for a user interface, and this is precisely
what the item does.
> Please "christian cuvier" be more precise and exact: I didn't find what you
mean "Global styles -> Default style" or how you can, in Notepad++, "displays
the 128.255 character range according to what you expect" (which means, if I
understand you correctly, choosing one of the *fixed length* charsets, thus
excluding UTF-8).
Settongs -> Stylers Configurator , select Global styles on the lefthand list
and Default style on the right hand list. If you are viewing a file using some
highlighter (PHP, HTML,...) and you have set a specific font for the DEFAULT
style item, then refer to this font instead.
Old time fonts, sometimes called DOS fonts, encode characters over one byte,
so indeed they are not UTF-8 capable. The 0..127 character range is usually
the same for all fonts, and is specified by the ASCII (the S is for standard).
What happens on the upper half is up to each font.
To try putting some order, it was decided that fonts representing a given script
should have consistent layouts for this upper 128..255 range. IDs for the
scripts
are known as the _code page_ for the font. Thus, if you wish to read text with
greek charactters and an ANSI-like font, choose a font with he greek code page
- 737 I believe. If you view greek text with a russian font, you'll see random
cyrillic letters which won't make sense as greek text.
Notepad++ does not have a ofont manager in order to select the right font for
a given document. However, there are 3rd party free managers. I use Arjan Mels'
Font Viewr, but here are others. I don't know if a font manager plugin would
be very useful, but why not.
In the cyrillic script world, things are more complicated because there are
two code pages, 866 and 1251, known as KOI-8 and Windows-1251.
Languages with too many glyphs have used DBCS encodings, also with code pages;
this is yet another story. Other people on this forum probably know the gory
details better.
Modern fonts adhere to the Unicode standard and refer to code pages for
compatibility
only. Since they have as many glyphs as desired, they can support several of
them, which older fonts could not.
HTH
CChris
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:16:01 +0000
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Help] RE: plain text
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By: jwight
>Where do the counts come from?
CChris >
I use notepad++ and at the bottom it saids 300 chars for line something.
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:43:15 +0000
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Help] Auto-close single
and duble quotes
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By: drixy
Is there any way to configure Notepad++ so that it auto-closes the quotes after
you open them and move the cursor in between them?
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:39:22 +0000
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Help] RE: Actionscript
syntax highlighting
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By: cchris
I had - long ago - posted a problem report about this.
For instance, N++ insists on styling .e files as Eiffel, but sometimes they
are Euphoria files, which also use .e. I program in both languages. .inc is
a known contended extension (Pascal/Asm/another one).
I think there should be some mechanism to detect that an extension is associated
to several languages, and present user with a way to specify the preferred
behaviour.
Of course, one can always use the Languages menu to set the right highlighting,
but...
CChris
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:27:20 +0000
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE: The
program must not impose NOR HAMPER smthng
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By: donho
> In short, there is NO REASON, the document being changed or not,
> to violate user's will when he wants to save. Sorry for being forced to
> elaborate
on the obvious...
No need to cry out loud, post your opinion on ideatorrent then let the other
users express them-selves :
http://sourceforge.net/apps/ideatorrent/notepad-plus/
Don
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