> but thats exactly why number_boxes are used, so you can see the state
> of an [f] in the user interface (and alter it directly with the mouse
> of course)... as mentioned above, they are not the same.

the fact that [i 3] will show the init value, for as long as the patch is open, 
is pretty unintuitive to the idea of 'visual patcher'. since the visual is 
wrong. 


so yes, i think the 3 should update, and you should be able to drag it with a 
mouse.. 
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