Hello Jim,

I have extended the instructions how to install the NSBasic runtimes on the 
Emulator and where to find the cab files for this. Look it up here:

http://pb.rbsoft.eu/nsb/emulator.htm

Hope that helps you further.

Since ActiveSync is not compatible with Vista you will have to use Windows 
Mobile Center under Vista.

Rolf


--- In [email protected], "cschuchert" <cschuch...@...> wrote:
>
> Ok, I think I know how to get nsbasic on the emulator with the XP. I wasn't 
> cradling the emulator after starting active sync. It is doing what I want 
> now. Didn't have to use a device but did have to have active sync.
> 
> Now for the Vista...can't use active sync here but maybe I can figure out how 
> to use the Windows Mobile Center. Still...I would like to hear from you.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "cschuchert" <cschuchert@> wrote:
> >
> > Rolf and Al (if you are monitoring),
> > 
> > I am pulling my hair out over this seemingly simple problem.
> > 
> > Here is what I am finding...
> > XP computer:
> > I have a 2003 se emulator and a device manager. Before I turned off my 
> > computer last night, I was able to edit my code on the desktop, start the 
> > program (F5) and the result was synched to the emulator and I could open 
> > the program file. This was done without active sync running or a device 
> > attached. Somehow I must have installed nsbasic on the emulator but I don't 
> > know how it happened. I never did make an active sync connection with the 
> > emulator (using dma) but I was going back and forth with the device before 
> > I disconnected it. I was surprised that it worked so easily with only the 
> > emulator and the desktop in action. Today...zippo, zilch, nyet, squat, 
> > nothing. Back to square one. 
> > 
> > Vista Computer:
> > Downloaded the correct images from the link you sent and installed the 
> > emulator. Configured it to use a shared folder. All of the files from the 
> > desktop folder show up on the emulator and I can even read my program's 
> > manual there. Everything is in the 'storage card' folder.
> > 
> > Opened the desktop nsb folder, double clicked the program file 
> > (pocketcogo.nsb) and it installed the program on the desktop. This is how I 
> > thought it installed nsbasic on the XP emulator yesterday because of the 
> > shared folder. 
> > 
> > The key is getting nsb installed on the emulator. This is where I come up 
> > short. Both you and Al have said to do it the same as though I was 
> > installing to the device. If I were installing to the device, I would 
> > connect it and use active sync but Vista doesn't support Active Sync. Even 
> > if I used Windows Mobile Device Center, I would have to connect the device. 
> > I guess I expected the 'shared folder' to take care of it.
> > 
> > I have read your instructions several times but keep getting stuck on 
> > installing nsbasic on the emulator. I did install Total Commander using the 
> > cab file I downloaded. It looks like the only way to do it is have a cab 
> > file for nsb or be able to use Windows Mobile Center together with the 
> > emulator.  Sorry to be a PITA.
> > 
> > Jim
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "rbsoft42" <rolf@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Jim,
> > > 
> > > first of all here is the link to newer emulator images:
> > > 
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1a7a6b52-f89e-4354-84ce-5d19c204498a&displaylang=en
> > > 
> > > It makes no difference if you use Vista or XP - I use the emulator under 
> > > both OS.
> > > 
> > > Once you have started and loaded the desired emulator you will have to 
> > > install NSBasic to the emulator just as you would to a normal device. 
> > > After this the emulator will have associated the nsb extension with the 
> > > NSBasic.
> > > 
> > > As Explorer shell on the emulator (and on devices as well) I would 
> > > recommend TotalCommander CE. It is absolutely great and it's freeware. 
> > > You can download it here:
> > > 
> > > http://www.ghisler.com/ce.htm
> > > 
> > > Hope that helps.
> > > Rolf
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "cschuchert" <cschuchert@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Rolf, thank you for your quick reply. I did what you suggested using  
> > > > XP (not sure you were also describing Vista). Everything went fine 
> > > > until I attempted to run the program from the emulator. That's when I 
> > > > got "not associated with any application" (name of my app is 
> > > > pocketcogo.nsb). So I put the program in the NSB folder where 
> > > > NSBCEIDE.EXE is (the associated file for nsb types) and still got the 
> > > > same message. This is the shared folder. I can't figure a way to make 
> > > > the proper association  within the emulator. When I try to execute the 
> > > > ide, it is not a valid application. Sorry to be so dense but I can't go 
> > > > further.
> > > > 
> > > > I only have 1 emulator from which to choose (2003 se) but would like to 
> > > > also have mobile 5 emulation. Where can I get a selection of emulators 
> > > > and an updated device manager.?  Thank you for your help.
> > > > 
> > > > Jim
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], "rbsoft42" <rolf@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Really there is not much need for ActiveSynch if you want to run an 
> > > > > app in the emulator. I use it this way:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Start the emulator manager.
> > > > > Connect the desired image.
> > > > > Go to <File><Configure>
> > > > > Under the tab General set Shared Folder to NSB App Folder. This 
> > > > > emulates a SD Card. 
> > > > > Run your app from there using file explorer or something like Total 
> > > > > Commander.
> > > > > Save the settings of the emulator image.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Rolf
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "cschuchert" <cschuchert@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My main computer is a Vista machine and will primarily use it for 
> > > > > > NSB work. Below are 2 related issues.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I am upgrading my app created with nsb 6.5, Win XP, active sync, a 
> > > > > > device emulator and device emulator manager. At the time, I could 
> > > > > > use the emulator without the device connected and work on my 
> > > > > > program. Now it doesn't work that way although I am following the 
> > > > > > same procedure I wrote down about a year ago. It cannot find the 
> > > > > > emulated device using the DMA port and the device not in its 
> > > > > > cradle. I did it before but not now.
> > > > > > The process was:
> > > > > > Load device emulator
> > > > > > Install Active Sync
> > > > > > Load device emulator manager
> > > > > > Execute one of the runtimes...basic.ppc.exe or runtimefat.ppc.exe
> > > > > > Install my app with F5 (or use explore in active sync)
> > > > > > cradle the emulator using the emulator manager
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > However, I can active sync the application to the device so long as 
> > > > > > the device is in the cradle but I have to debug using the device 
> > > > > > after each code edit. This would be my second choice.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Second issue:
> > > > > > I also cannot figure out how to use the MS emulator for Vista that 
> > > > > > I just downloaded. It connects fine with the ipaq device but how do 
> > > > > > I get the emulation on my pc without the device connected?  Here, 
> > > > > > again, I can sync the program to the device if it is in its cradle. 
> > > > > > Second choice again.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If there are any emulator gurus who can help me out, I will be very 
> > > > > > grateful.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Jim Schuchert
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



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