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   Subject: Re: [NSP] divorce
      Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:16:16 +0200
      From: Dave S [1]<[email protected]>
        To: Francis Wood [2]<[email protected]>

Hi Francis,
I concur with all of your points, it's not bad at all that there are now
3 places to pick up info, the sad thing is that there is no
co-ordination or contact between the 3 at this time -- useful info will
only get to a limited audience when it comes out into the open from any
one of the groups.
That is the worst of this difference of opinion, and from memory I can't
think of many reforms forced through by a minority in a democratic way
but Inky is right to question the perhaps limiting behaviour on  "The
Nsp is" definition

Julia - can you give us a bit insight into this area --

can't society ask for the opening of a separate class of "allied to NSP"
to allow development -- this would allow shuttle drone blocks (certainly
much easier to travel with and it does not damage so easily) and
sordellinos ( basically an NSP with regulators), but it came from
somewhere else - so ? and what of the phagotum - that would certainly
create interest.
Maybe someone will have ingenuity to build a "boehm keyed" NSP -- but
will it be accepted? - narrow bore piccolo what next, LOL.
 Variety is the spice to life - but yes we need tradition but the core
tradition may well benefit from a wider supporting role from acceptable
close to or offshoots of the original type pipes. What was the original
tradition based on anyway ? I am not qualified to even hazard a quess
ssooooo - suffice to say - the 17 key is way away from the original
isn't it -- a keyless chanter -- or are there a variety of traditions ie
no key - 4 key - 5,7,11,13,15,17 18, etc etc and then we have not yet
begun on the drone possibilites.
I think the Lowland and Border society comes closer to harmonizing it's
members by saying "drones in a common stock"

As for oil -- I certainly go for "neck oil" of most varieties, except
flat beer

cheers me dears

Dave S



On 6/16/2011 10:22 AM, Francis Wood wrote:
> Hello Dave and others,
>
> I see things a little differently.
>
> Two things have happened here, the first being a move to have opinions, inform
ation and other resources made permanently available in the form of a forum. Thi
s is currently happening  in the NPS Forum and the Traditional NSP Forum establi
shed by Inky-Adrian. The advantage of the forum medium is clear - it provides a
growing archive where threads are easily followed and remain related to their or
iginal header. This is not so with the archived posts of this, or any  other lis
t.
>
> The second development is that there are now two separate forums. It might be
argued that it's a pity that the party is going on in two different houses. My o
wn view is that diversity is a good thing. Each forum can learn and develop from
 the other. It's also a good demonstration that the often-confused NSP and NPS a
re not in fact the same thing, and that each can exist detached from the other.
>
> I'll continue to follow and enjoy this list, though I treat it very much as a
newspaper, occasionally keeping cuttings but treating the rest as daily ephemera
.  As a repository of useful fact and opinion, it doesn't really work.
>
> By the way, does anyone have any good ideas about the right kind of oil to use
?
>
> Francis
>
>
> On 16 Jun 2011, at 08:38, Dave S wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> It seems as though Inky has his wish. The tradition is now firmly no longer o
ut in the open.
>> This list served the purpose of introducing the beginner(shy fence-sitter to
brash young expert) to light conversation/disagreement/proposition on all subjec
ts around the wonderful instrument known as the NSP. It has done this well for a
 good number of years, but I believe the polarisation Inky wrongly thought was n
ecessary to save his ideal methodology (rightly or wrongly) of the ONLY way to p
lay NSP has wrought more damage than can now be imagined.
>> I would liken it to attempting to harmonize the  accents used by people in an
y single country of the world.
>> I find it rather saddening that this has occurred - I will continue to listen
 and reply to try and keep this list going -- will the rest of you out there do
the same ??
>>
>> Inky has a good heart but perhaps a too impulsive temperament has taken over
in this case -- why not teach your method to the masses by force of persuation,
Inky, and not by force of typing.
>> Of course there are multiple sides in the recent situation but I hope our lov
e the instrument, it's possibilities and it's beatiful music will eventually pre
vail over the hot tempered reactions.
>>
>> ciao
>>
>> Dave S
>>
>>
>>
>>
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