Why bother with a manager when they have so little impact on the the way the team plays and the result of games?
If we got rid of Mick and all the coaching staff we should be able to use their wages to pay the wages of better players and therefore improve our results and league position. The stats support it you know. ________________________________ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Crowe Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 8:56 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Karl Henry Stats [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I really loved MM and am very thankful for his hard work and what he has done for the Club but it is time for a change. I do not think he is the man to take us forward. MM out!! Don't care who the replacement is as I know the Board will choose the best person available. Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com<mailto:pcr...@contechengineering.com> Website: www.contechengineering.com<http://www.contechengineering.com> From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 8:50 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Karl Henry Stats [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] UNCLASSIFIED Thats right, lets have our own poll then. For MM = Against MM (I'm against but only if a suitable replacement is available) Should Henry be our first choice defensive midfielder = Should we sign someone specifically to replace him (I think we need someone better in his position) I also happen to believe we desperately need another quality striker. IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. ________________________________ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 07:40 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Karl Henry Stats [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Stats can be made to support any agenda that a person wants to push. Climate Change is the perfect example of how both sides can manipulate statistics to support their own agenda. On 20/12/2011, at 08:36 , Jeremy Tonks wrote: You've missed the point Lee ;) How much is he being paid? I'm not sure 1 game without him this season gives us any statistical validity?! I think I'd like to see which games he missed (as in opponents) as well. ________________________________ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com<mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com> [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com<mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 8:30 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com<mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com> Subject: [NSWolves] Karl Henry Stats [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] UNCLASSIFIED Whilst on the subject of statistics, did anyone else see the Karl Henry stats on Mol Mix? Are these stats too much of a coincidence???? 2010-2011 - With Karl Henry P28 ( + 1 sub ) W7 ( 21 points ) D6 ( 6 points ) L16 Pts: 27 2010-2011 - Without Karl Henry P9 W4 ( 12 points ) D1 ( 1 point ) L4 Pts: 13 points 2011-2012 - With Karl Henry P 14 W3 ( 9 points ) D2 ( 2 points ) L9 Pts: 11 2011-2012 - Without Karl Henry P1 W1 ( 3 points ) Pts: 3 IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. ________________________________ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com<mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com> [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com<mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Jeremy Tonks Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 07:21 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com<mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Welcome Back Matthew [sec=unclassified] [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I'm not going to put Sunderland in that basket for a few more weeks yet... ...and the wages statistics still tell me that Sh*te will fall on their collective backsides sooner rather than later :) ________________________________ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com<mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com> [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com<mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 8:15 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com<mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Welcome Back Matthew [sec=unclassified] [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] UNCLASSIFIED There lies the problem because first the Baggies and now Sunderland have nicked the obvious candidates...we have dithered too much.... 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If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. ________________________________ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com<mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com> [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com<mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Jeremy Tonks Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 07:13 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com<mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Welcome Back Matthew [sec=unclassified] [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] You raise good points Lee but you fail in the usual way... just who is it that is going to replace MM? ________________________________ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com<mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com> [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com<mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 8:09 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com<mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Welcome Back Matthew [sec=unclassified] [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] UNCLASSIFIED So using this theory, West Brom are 8 places above where they should be, simply because they found a bloody good manager to replace the dross they had previoulsy....I rest my case. Again using West Brom as an example, we were just about on equal terms when they appointed their current manager whilst we continued to battle along with MM. Of course wages make a difference, as the table below shows, BUT the need for higher quality should have been staring MM and Steve Morgan in the face after the struggle last season...I blame Morgan for jumping the gun with the stadium...rather than spending more on players, but I understand the timing aspect re the economy......I blame Mick for the way we play...its horrible sub standard stuff...I think I enjoyed the championship more. IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. ________________________________ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com<mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com> [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com<mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 05:31 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com<mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Welcome Back Matthew I've taken my points on to Molineux Mix if anyone's interested http://molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=66061 Here's some more interesting data in the table below. League rank is the position that the team finished in the league Wage rank is the position forecast by wages You'll notice that wages are a great predicitor of league position. 10 teams are within one position of their prediction. 15 teams are within two positions of their prediction 18 teams are within three positions of their prediction. I've sorted the table by the last column which is the difference between the league and wage ranking. The teams at the top are the ones that seemingly outperformed their resources. You'll notice all the "good" managers are near the top of the list: Hodgson - Pulis - Redknapp - Ferguson - McCARTHY The way I see if you can say that either management is important and Mick is a good manager or management is unimportant. There's no room to say that managment is important and Mick is a bad manager because the facts don't support it. Team..........League Rank...Wage Rank...Difference West Brom..........11..............19................8 Fulham................8...............11.......... ......3 Stoke................13...............15.......... ......2 Spurs..................5................7......... .......2 Man Utd..............1................3............... ..2 Wolves..............17...............18........... .....1 Blackpool...........19...............20........... .....1 Arsenal...............4.................5......... .......1 Everton..............7.................8.......... ......1 Wigan...............16...............16........... .....0 Newcastle..........12...............12............ ....0 Bolton...............14...............14.......... ......0 Chelsea..............2.................1.......... .....-1 Birmingham.........18...............17............ ..-1 Man City.............3.................2.............. .-1 Liverpool.............6.................4......... ......-2 Sunderland.........10................8............ ....-2 Aston villa...........9.................6...............-3 Blackburn...........15...............12........... ....-3 West Ham..........20................8...............-12 On 19 December 2011 15:03, Paul Crowe <pcr...@contechengineering.com<mailto:pcr...@contechengineering.com>> wrote: Hughes's Granny would be better than MM! Maybe we should just enlist a local Gypsy as replacement for MM, as our teams performance depends on luck and other dubiously explained factors, nothing at all to do with the Manager and his coaching skills? Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com<mailto:pcr...@contechengineering.com> Website: www.contechengineering.com<http://www.contechengineering.com/> From: nswolves@googlegroups.com<mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com> [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com<mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 2:52 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com<mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Welcome Back Matthew Hold the front page. What a scoop! On 19 December 2011 11:09, Paul Hart <wholiga...@gmail.com<mailto:wholiga...@gmail.com>> wrote: I spoke to my mate last night in Penn he heard Hughes was there. Well just have to wait and see. Sent from my iPhone On 19/12/2011, at 11:05 AM, Steven Millward <millward....@gmail.com<mailto:millward....@gmail.com>> wrote: He dared to make a positive comment about Wolves and the filter kicked him out. I've hacked it. Where is that rumour from? On 19 December 2011 11:00, Paul Hart <wholiga...@gmail.com<mailto:wholiga...@gmail.com>> wrote: Why were you bannned Matthew ? Did you dare to ask for the head of MM Has anybody else heard the rumour That Mark Hughes was at the Stoke game ??? Sent from my iPhone -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. Before printing, please consider the environment IMPORTANT NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachment to it are intended only to be read or used by the named addressee. It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistaken transmission to you. Roads and Maritime Services (RMS) is not responsible for any unauthorised alterations to this e-mail or attachment to it. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of RMS. If you receive this e-mail in error, please immediately delete it from your system and notify the sender. You must not disclose, copy or use any part of this e-mail if you are not the intended recipient. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out.
