Sorry I got the results for the Wolves the wrong way round and I did not
delete Blackpool, corrected table below.
Dear Steve,
I found these figures on the web from Deloitte's annual football report for
season 2009 to 2010, the season before your figures. Results as follows:
Team..........League Rank...Wage Rank...Difference
Burnley......... .18..............19................1
Fulham................12...............11.......... ......-1
Stoke................11...............14.......... ......3
Spurs..................5................7......... .......2
Man Utd..............2................3............... ..1
Wolves..............15...............18........... .....3
Arsenal...............3.................5......... .......2
Everton..............8.................8.......... ......0
Wigan...............16...............15........... .....-1
Hull City..........19...............16............ ....-3
Bolton...............13...............14.......... ......1
Chelsea..............1.................1.......... .....0
Birmingham.........17...............9............ ..8
Man City.............5.................2.............. .-3
Liverpool.............6.................4......... ......-2
Sunderland.........10................8............ ....-2
Aston villa...........9.................6...............-3
Blackburn...........15...............12........... ....-3
West Ham..........17................10...............-7
Note: No results were given to Deloitte by Portsmouth
Compared to your results for last season 2010 to 2011:
Team..........League Rank...Wage Rank...Difference
West Brom..........11..............19................8
Fulham................8...............11.......... ......3
Stoke................13...............15.......... ......2
Spurs..................5................7......... .......2
Man Utd..............1................3............... ..2
Wolves..............17...............18........... .....1
Blackpool...........19...............20........... .....1
Arsenal...............4.................5......... .......1
Everton..............7.................8.......... ......1
Wigan...............16...............16........... .....0
Newcastle..........12...............12............ ....0
Bolton...............14...............14.......... ......0
Chelsea..............2.................1.......... .....-1
Birmingham.........18...............17............ ..-1
Man City.............3.................2.............. .-1
Liverpool.............6.................4......... ......-2
Sunderland.........10................8............ ....-2
Aston villa...........9.................6...............-3
Blackburn...........15...............12........... ....-3
West Ham..........20................8...............-12
Ok, pretty similar results. The 2 x anomaly's for 2009 to 2010 being
Birmingham and West Ham. Interesting that West Ham went up 2 x places in
terms of the wage table for last season compared to the previous year but
ended up finishing bottom and were relegated.
Pity Deloitte do not publish their reports. Anybody have the figures for the
season 2008 to 2009?
Still not convinced Manager's have no effect whatsoever and that 90% of team
performance is directly attributed to wage bill spend.
Regards
Paul.
Paul Crowe
Sales Manager - Asia Pacific
ConTech (Sydney Office)
PO Box 3517
Rhodes Waterside
Rhodes NSW 2138
Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542
Mob: 0406009562
Email: <mailto:pcr...@contechengineering.com> pcr...@contechengineering.com
Website: <http://www.contechengineering.com> www.contechengineering.com
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Dear Steve,
I found these figures on the web from Deloitte's annual football report for
season 2009 to 2010, the season before your figures. Results as follows:
Team..........League Rank...Wage Rank...Difference
Burnley......... .18..............19................1
Fulham................12...............11.......... ......-1
Stoke................11...............14.......... ......3
Spurs..................5................7......... .......2
Man Utd..............2................3............... ..1
Wolves..............18...............15........... .....3
Blackpool...........19...............20........... .....1
Arsenal...............3.................5......... .......2
Everton..............8.................8.......... ......0
Wigan...............16...............15........... .....-1
Hull City..........19...............16............ ....-3
Bolton...............13...............14.......... ......1
Chelsea..............1.................1.......... .....0
Birmingham.........17...............9............ ..8
Man City.............5.................2.............. .-3
Liverpool.............6.................4......... ......-2
Sunderland.........10................8............ ....-2
Aston villa...........9.................6...............-3
Blackburn...........15...............12........... ....-3
West Ham..........17................10...............-7
Compared to your results for last season 2010 to 2011:
Team..........League Rank...Wage Rank...Difference
West Brom..........11..............19................8
Fulham................8...............11.......... ......3
Stoke................13...............15.......... ......2
Spurs..................5................7......... .......2
Man Utd..............1................3............... ..2
Wolves..............17...............18........... .....1
Blackpool...........19...............20........... .....1
Arsenal...............4.................5......... .......1
Everton..............7.................8.......... ......1
Wigan...............16...............16........... .....0
Newcastle..........12...............12............ ....0
Bolton...............14...............14.......... ......0
Chelsea..............2.................1.......... .....-1
Birmingham.........18...............17............ ..-1
Man City.............3.................2.............. .-1
Liverpool.............6.................4......... ......-2
Sunderland.........10................8............ ....-2
Aston villa...........9.................6...............-3
Blackburn...........15...............12........... ....-3
West Ham..........20................8...............-12
Ok, pretty similar results. The 2 x anomaly's for 2009 to 2010 being
Birmingham and West Ham. Interesting that West Ham went up 2 x places in
terms of the wage table for last season compared to the previous year but
ended up finishing bottom and were relegated.
Pity Deloitte do not publish their reports. Anybody have the figures for the
season 2008 to 2009?
Still not convinced Manager's have no effect whatsoever and that 90% of team
performance is directly attributed to wage bill spend.
Regards
Paul.
Paul Crowe
Sales Manager - Asia Pacific
ConTech (Sydney Office)
PO Box 3517
Rhodes Waterside
Rhodes NSW 2138
Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542
Mob: 0406009562
Email: <mailto:pcr...@contechengineering.com> pcr...@contechengineering.com
Website: <http://www.contechengineering.com> www.contechengineering.com
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 2:36 PM
To: nswolves
Subject: [NSWolves] Fwd: Prem league wages
Here's the wages data that Paul Crowe asked for, It's more or less the same
as the data I have already shared.
West Ham is an outlier and linear regression is not robust so you get a
stronger r-squared when you take it out. God knows what happened to them
last season
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Boo! Thick Mick Out.
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