He asked for it, literally. Think he usually pays for something like that. Being a good leftie I did it for free. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Friday, 23 December 2011 8:47 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Fwd: Prem league wages I didn't beat elliot up Rog unlike you. I know the death of the Dear Leader has probably upset you but why take it out on poor Elliott?
On 20/12/2011, at 10:35 PM, "Rog & Reet" <rognr...@exemail.com.au> wrote: Yes they do pay out more than one place if you have an each way bet. Means in essence you have to place 80 bets. They wouldn't have given you 19-1 for Chelsea to finish top. They wouldn't have given you 19-1 for Everton to finish 8th. They certainly wouldn't have given you 4.75-1 for Burnley finishing in the bottom 3 even if they'd have smoked all the hash in Afghanistan. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Tonks Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 10:27 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Fwd: Prem league wages What are you smoking Rog? They do give out prizes for being only one place out though don't they? You'd have only done your money in 22 out of 40 (but you can get a pay out for missing by two in an each way bet. in which case you'd have won 27 out of 40) I reckon that's about as good as a super punter like yourself ever does.? _____ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog & Reet Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 10:22 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Fwd: Prem league wages If only bookies gave out prizes for getting 35 out of 40 wrong. I'd be a millionaire, hang on, no I'd be a billionaire. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 8:57 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Fwd: Prem league wages Thanks for these Paul. It's interesting that the correlation is even stronger the year before. When you combine both seasons, the chance of data falling into line like that by chance is about one in 59,000,000,000 (59 billion). On 20 December 2011 16:14, Paul Crowe <pcr...@contechengineering.com> wrote: Dear Steve, I found these figures on the web from Deloitte's annual football report for season 2009 to 2010, the season before your figures. Results as follows: Team..........League Rank...Wage Rank...Difference Burnley......... .18..............19................1 Fulham................12...............11.......... ......-1 Stoke................11...............14.......... ......3 Spurs..................5................7......... .......2 Man Utd..............2................3............... ..1 Wolves..............18...............15........... .....3 Blackpool...........19...............20........... .....1 Arsenal...............3.................5......... .......2 Everton..............8.................8.......... ......0 Wigan...............16...............15........... .....-1 Hull City..........19...............16............ ....-3 Bolton...............13...............14.......... ......1 Chelsea..............1.................1.......... .....0 Birmingham.........17...............9............ ..8 Man City.............5.................2.............. .-3 Liverpool.............6.................4......... ......-2 Sunderland.........10................8............ ....-2 Aston villa...........9.................6...............-3 Blackburn...........15...............12........... ....-3 West Ham..........17................10...............-7 Compared to your results for last season 2010 to 2011: Team..........League Rank...Wage Rank...Difference West Brom..........11..............19................8 Fulham................8...............11.......... ......3 Stoke................13...............15.......... ......2 Spurs..................5................7......... .......2 Man Utd..............1................3............... ..2 Wolves..............17...............18........... .....1 Blackpool...........19...............20........... .....1 Arsenal...............4.................5......... .......1 Everton..............7.................8.......... ......1 Wigan...............16...............16........... .....0 Newcastle..........12...............12............ ....0 Bolton...............14...............14.......... ......0 Chelsea..............2.................1.......... .....-1 Birmingham.........18...............17............ ..-1 Man City.............3.................2.............. .-1 Liverpool.............6.................4......... ......-2 Sunderland.........10................8............ ....-2 Aston villa...........9.................6...............-3 Blackburn...........15...............12........... ....-3 West Ham..........20................8...............-12 Ok, pretty similar results. The 2 x anomaly's for 2009 to 2010 being Birmingham and West Ham. Interesting that West Ham went up 2 x places in terms of the wage table for last season compared to the previous year but ended up finishing bottom and were relegated. Pity Deloitte do not publish their reports. Anybody have the figures for the season 2008 to 2009? Still not convinced Manager's have no effect whatsoever and that 90% of team performance is directly attributed to wage bill spend. Regards Paul. Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 2:36 PM To: nswolves Subject: [NSWolves] Fwd: Prem league wages Here's the wages data that Paul Crowe asked for, It's more or less the same as the data I have already shared. West Ham is an outlier and linear regression is not robust so you get a stronger r-squared when you take it out. God knows what happened to them last season -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out. -- Boo! Thick Mick Out.
