<ANDREW BAKER>
Agreed.
</ANDREW BAKER>

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 5:16 AM
To: NT 2000 Discussions
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: MS Outlook 2000/2002


My only complaint with Outlook is the apparent lack of multithreading
when downloading mails as a POP3 client.

Other than that, most of your complaints can be configured by options
native to the application.

If you're that concerned, don't use Outlook.

I must say that you spend a whole lot of time complaining, but that
would be overstating the obvious.  Perhaps you should consider a less
irksome occupation.


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>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Adam Smith
>Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 11:06 PM
>To: NT 2000 Discussions
>Subject: MS Outlook 2000/2002
>
>
>
>All,
>
>Outlook is so useless.  I am finding this more and more with many
>Microsoft written programs these days that although they may
>be a market
>leader and have a good interface for their software, the
>core features
>are barely up to scratch.
>
>Take message rules.
>
>How many people do you know who have message rules set up?  Heaps.  I
>have about 15 on my own system.  One is set up to parse the
>headers of
>incoming emails for "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" so that emails to this list
>sort into the correct folder.  Another one is for a Linux list, a BSD
>list and a whole host of newsletters etc.
>
>There are times where I load up Outlook, it downloads mail
>and sorts it
>into the correct headers.
>
>Message Rules Annoyance #1 --  Why does Outlook need to have every
>single email come into the Inbox *before* its headers get
>parsed?  It's
>extremely aggrovating to sit on my Inbox watching email
>download, move
>to my Inbox, get parsed and then sort to the correct box.
>Why?  Because
>every time an email comes through, the contents of my inbox
>moves down
>one row and then back up one row.  When you've got multiple emails
>coming in being sorted all the time, you keep mis-clicking
>things.  "Why
>don't you wait for it to finish, then read your email?" .. Err.. Why
>should I!
>
>Message Rules Annoyance #2 --  Many, MANY times I load Outlook and it
>begins to download email, appears to parse the headers and
>then leaves
>the message in the Inbox!  There have been countless times
>that I have
>loaded Outlook only to find that its left mail there that should have
>been sorted correctly.  So I trott off to the Message Rules
>options to
>manually run the sort on the Inbox.  When I get there, I
>have to click
>*EVERY* rule manually, because there's no "Select All" button.  How
>annoying!  When I run it, it works!!
>
>NEXT!
>
>Outlook takes ages to load.  I have approximately 800Mb
>worth of email.
>I keep it all, because I am a hoarder.  I keep mailing list archives
>going back as far as to the date I joined, and I used to even file my
>SPAM mail in a folder called "SPAM".  I deleted nothing.
>These days I
>keep everything but the spam and newslettery things that I
>receive that
>I don't want to read.  So due to the fact that I'm on three
>high-volume
>mailing lists, (NT2000/freebsd-questions/LinuxSA), I get
>quite a bit of
>mail every day.  If I reboot, Outlook loads in about 60 seconds.  It
>often completely freezes my computer until it has loaded.
>
>If I close Outlook and reload, its fast.  Caching is great!  But why
>does it take so long to load in the first place?  I am not asking
>Outlook to load all of my mail before I read it, I just want
>to get into
>the program and get on with my work.  I think it could have been done
>better.  One big file for each of my mail folders seems like
>a massive
>great mistake...
>
>NEXT!
>
>The Contacts book.  What a load of sh...amefulness.
>
>Let's say I have my main contacts book, and within that are three
>sub-groups I have created.. "Employees," "Clients" and "Suppliers".
>
>In my Employees group I have heeeeeeeeaps of email addresses
>because I
>make so much money I need heaps and heaps of employees.
>Now, I need to
>write an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I stoke up the editor by
>pressing the "New" button.  OK.  Click the "To..." button
>and there are
>no addresses listed in the address list!  Why?  Because Outlook is
>trying to read addresses from somewhere else *OTHER* than its Address
>Book!  Dumb!  The only way to send him an email without knowing his
>address is to go to his contact information, right click and
>click "Send
>Message to Contact".  Duh.  Of course you should.  I mean the "To..."
>button is there for ordering pizza, right?
>
>So instead of doing that you decide to put in his email address
>manually.  So you type in the following into the 'To' field:
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>and click Send.  OOPS!! You typed ".co" instead of ".com".  Too late!
>The email has gone.  Oh well, go into the sent items box,
>copy the text
>out of the email (because there's no way to just re-send a
>message thats
>already be sent, no, who'd want to ever do that??).. Anyway, so you
>compose a new email and put in his email address correctly, and paste
>the text back into the email and press send.  It goes
>through.  *PHEW*.
>
>Two days later we need to send an email to Tom Cruise again.
> We stoke
>up Outlook and start typing his email address, and Outlook prompts us
>because it's remembered him from last time!  How clever,
>Outlook!!  So
>you look at the list of matches and it shows you two of them:
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Now if we press the TAB key, it will select the first match, which is
>wrong.  So every time we want to quickly send an email to
>Tom Cruise, we
>need to press Down--Enter.  This is going to get annoying because I
>intend to be conversing with Tom Cruise quite a bit.  I
>might even give
>up a lamb roast dinner for it.  OK So this is easy.  Let's just edit
>this list of addresses that Outlook's cached and remove the redundant
>entry.
>Where do you go to do that?  Oh wait, you can't!!  Hooray!
>
>NEXT!
>
>One day, we've composed an email and its sitting in the
>"Outbox" which
>means its waiting to be sent, but hasn't left the email client yet.
>Cool.  You just want to double check that email before it
>goes out, so
>you double click on it to load it up and read it.  It's all
>good.  Then
>you press "Send/Recieve" and the email stays in the Outbox.
>You click
>it again and it stays there.  "What the fork?," you say.
>
>You ring up IT support and they tell you that the email won't go out
>anymore because you've loaded it up while its in the Outbox.
> You need
>to drag the email into your 'Drafts' folder, then re-send it.  If you
>look at it now, its in italics.  After you double click to load it
>during its stay in the Outbox, you make it proper-case.
>That means it
>won't leave anymore.  What kind of an idiot wouldn't realize that?  I
>mean, REALLY!
>
>NEXT!
>
>"Outlook has blocked access to the attached attachments:
>IMPORTANT-VIRUS-FREE-EXECUTABLE.EXE"
>
>Well that's all well and good, because I know that my mate at the
>computer next to me just emailed me this file.  But now I
>can't load it
>because Outlook won't let me.  You see Outlook doesn't
>realize that I'm
>an intelligent enough person to make my own decisions when
>it comes to
>file attachments.  Had it prompted me on installation to enable or
>disable these "security" precautions, then maybe I'd be a bit more
>happy.  Sure I can disable them in the registry, but who wants to do
>that all the time?  Give me the good old outlook.conf file.
>And we all
>know the real reason Outlook blocks these types of files is
>because it
>is still coded to run attachments that you haven't told it to.  Like
>loading of HTML pages in an email.  This is a work around to make
>Outlook look like its helping you when in fact it's only
>stopping itself
>from causing more problems on your system.  Then again if
>you're idiotic
>enough to load a .VBS file that was sent to you by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>then its your own fault, but then again, who designs an
>Operating System
>security system that allows an executed program to have the identical
>level of security to the person who ran it?  Err..
>
>NEXT!
>
>When you create an email account, why do you have to click the "More
>Settings" button to give it a non auto-generated name?  Aaaarrrgh!!
>
>NEXT!
>
>People send you emails in HTML/Rich Text format all the time.  Sure I
>dont mind reading them in that format, but I'd never send ANYONE an
>email in RTF or HTML format.  Yucko!  When I click reply to an RTF
>email, why does it reply in Rich Text mode?  I have configured my
>Outlook to generate emails in Text only!!  Oh, thats right..
>G-E-N-E-R-A-T-E emails.  Not reply to emails in Text Mode.  Generate
>only.  So all replies to emails go back in the format they
>started in.
>Riiiight.
>
>NEXT!
>
>The blue quote line.  What a piece of garbage that is.  When someone
>sends me an email I like to cut it up and reply to parts of it by
>quoting one or two lines that they had said, then responding to that.
>For example:
>
>-----------------
>> Hello!
>
>Hey, how are ya?
>
>Cya later!
>-----------------
>
>If they send that message in RTF or HTML, you reply in RTF
>or HTML.  So
>Outlook auto-quotes their original message with a solid blue
>line down
>the left of it.  That means you are forced to reply at the top of the
>email.  Who replies like that?  It's inconsistent, gross, and hard to
>follow.
>
>So if you go down and decide to break up the message a bit,
>you can't!!
>All you can do is modify the original message.  But wait!!
>There's one
>way around it!  Change the current format of your email from
>HTML into
>text! YESSSS that ought to do it!!  "Format Menu, Plain Text".  Cool.
>It says you'll lose your formatting, but that's what we want.  So you
>click OK, and Outlook takes away the blue line, and doesn't
>prefix the
>original message with those lovely '>' characters.  So
>you've got to do
>it manually!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>NEXT!
>
>Doing it manually will just cause Outlook to have a gross amount of
>characters per line, which means that any generic email
>clients will see
>it quote properly the first time, then if that original
>quote makes it
>through to a second reply, it will come out looking
>something like this:
>
>> This is a line of text that Outlook has played around with and
>> made really
>> dumb.  So dumb in fact that it drops words so that they 'fit'
>> when in
>> actual fact they just make things look gross.  Hard to read,
>> hard to
>> quote with too!
>
>NEXT!
>
>"Extra line breaks were removed in this message.  To restore, click
>here."  This is a little yellow line on the status bar in the middle
>between your email and your preview pane.  If you actually
>*RESTORE* the
>line breaks, the email usually looks right.  Amazing!
>
>NEXT!
>
>Quoting with UNC pathnames.
>
>If an originating email has a line beginning with a backslash, ie a \
>character, it comes out as a link in Outlook, (underlined
>blue).  If you
>then go and hit reply and reply in text mode, Outlook stops
>quoting the
>> character including and after that line.  Very very wrong!
>
>
>I think I've had enough...  I need a coffee...
>
>Maybe next week I'll bring you another Microsoft product review :-)
>
>My rating:  2/10
>
>
>1 point for Looks
>1 point for Interface
>8 points lost for annoyances. -- No bonus points for you, Outlook!
>
>
>
>
>Adam Smith
>IT Officer
>SAGE Automation Ltd
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://www.sageautomation.com
>
>Phone:   (08) 8276 0703
>Fax:     (08) 8276 0799
>Mobile:  0414 895 273
>
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