I think I have lucked out here.  I have a CEO who's one number concern is 
security.  He wants firewalls, access-list in routers, not storing complete 
credit card numbers, and things like that.  We have a company coming in and 
doing a two-weeks check for security on our network next month.  Cost a 
little bit, but he feels the money is worth it.  He does not want what 
happened to Playboy to happen to us.

But, I do know lots of companies shine on things like firewalls and other 
secure methods for the networks / servers.  They do not see the reason to 
spend the money because they probably can not "see it" in action.

At 10:37 AM 12/7/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Probably budget. Makes me sick when companies rely entirely on there
>electronic data, don't realize and when IT tries to propose a solution to
>protect them from disaster, they blow it off like it is no big deal. Can't
>budget for that. Meanwhile IT is spending weekends cleaning up a mess that
>could have been avoided by a measly 20 Grand. We fix the problem that could
>have cost the company millions of dollars but get absolutely no recognition
>for it. We don't fix the problem we are on the unemployment line because of
>some shmuckola CEO that refuses to believe that it was his decision of not
>implementing security that caused the company to lose vital data.
>When is the business world going to realize that IT is as important as
>accounts receivables? It gets really annoying that we IT professionals play
>major roles in company day to day operations and get profiled as quiet,
>secluded, seat warmers that do nothing but stare at monitors all day. When
>in fact we are the fire fighters of the business world.
>
>Sorry just needed to vent a little. Corporate ignorance is extremely
>pathetic.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Flanagan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:57 AM
>To: NT 2000 Discussions
>Subject: RE: how to block port 135 without router or firewall
>
>I find it hard to understand why you wouldn't want a firewall.
>
>
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hank Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 3:46 AM
> > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > Subject: Re: how to block port 135 without router or firewall
> >
> >
> > 1. What OS -...
> > it is w2k box. I have checked ip filter but it is for all
> > nics. I am looking for certain ip or nic in the box
> >
> > 2. The NSA publishes a .....
> > thank you for the info
> >
> > 3. 135= RP.......
> > I already take care of them
> >
> > 4. Look into Tiny Firewal...
> > is it possible do it with w2k WITHOUT firewall box?
> >
> >
> > 5. You may have better luck starting your search from
>http://www.microsoft.com/security.
>
>7. There are cheap Firewall/Router products for Home use ($150-$400 US). I
>may just clean up my unused pentum box and install linux to do the job. My
>point is
>
>"Is it possible do it within w2k WITHOUT firewall box?"
>
>Cannot believe w2k have no ability to disable and block certain port by
>itself...
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Hank Lee
>
>
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