I think it is becoming the nature of the business.  IT budgets are becoming
more scrutinized and as a result we have to start thinking like business
people not just tech geeks.  I have a staff of 10 that I try to insulate
from the selling as much as possible and I spend 50 to 75% of my time
putting together information and selling the projects.

With all of the high profile failures over the last few years I can't say
that I think the additional upfront work is always a bad thing.

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 8:23 AM
To: NT 2000 Discussions
Subject: RE: how to block port 135 without router or firewall


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The down side is I spend more time putting together business cases and
selling projects then actually implementing them anymore.  I guess
that is
the price you pay when they give you a title that has manager in it.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It's an ugly situation all the way around.

Lots of time spent saying the same things over and over, and still
being second-guessed on the important decisions.


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>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wes Owen
>Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:45 AM
>To: NT 2000 Discussions
>Subject: RE: how to block port 135 without router or firewall
>
>
>Well I guess that could be turned around to say we are not
>properly selling
>our ideas.  I find a pretty good success rate on getting
>projects approved
>if I put together a proper business case and ROI.  It is
>slow and a lot of
>bureaucracy in the way, but eventually they happen.
>
>If I have at least gone through that much and still get
>turned down and
>disaster strikes I can then blow the dust off show them we
>had proposed a
>fix and get my money to get it done.
>
>The down side is I spend more time putting together business
>cases and
>selling projects then actually implementing them anymore.  I
>guess that is
>the price you pay when they give you a title that has manager in it.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ed Esgro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:37 AM
>To: NT 2000 Discussions
>Subject: RE: how to block port 135 without router or firewall
>
>
>Probably budget. Makes me sick when companies rely entirely on there
>electronic data, don't realize and when IT tries to propose
>a solution to
>protect them from disaster, they blow it off like it is no
>big deal. Can't
>budget for that. Meanwhile IT is spending weekends cleaning
>up a mess that
>could have been avoided by a measly 20 Grand. We fix the
>problem that could
>have cost the company millions of dollars but get absolutely
>no recognition
>for it. We don't fix the problem we are on the unemployment
>line because of
>some shmuckola CEO that refuses to believe that it was his
>decision of not
>implementing security that caused the company to lose vital data.
>When is the business world going to realize that IT is as
>important as
>accounts receivables? It gets really annoying that we IT
>professionals play
>major roles in company day to day operations and get
>profiled as quiet,
>secluded, seat warmers that do nothing but stare at monitors
>all day. When
>in fact we are the fire fighters of the business world.
>
>Sorry just needed to vent a little. Corporate ignorance is extremely
>pathetic.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Flanagan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:57 AM
>To: NT 2000 Discussions
>Subject: RE: how to block port 135 without router or firewall
>
>I find it hard to understand why you wouldn't want a firewall.
>
>
>+__________________________________________+
>"There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD
>and [Unix] BSD.
>We don't believe this to be a coincidence." -Jeremy S. Anderson
>
>
>Kevin M. Flanagan
>C/S Planning Engineer III
>IT Systems Implementation
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>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hank Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 3:46 AM
>> To: NT 2000 Discussions
>> Subject: Re: how to block port 135 without router or firewall
>>
>>
>> 1. What OS -...
>> it is w2k box. I have checked ip filter but it is for all
>> nics. I am looking for certain ip or nic in the box
>>
>> 2. The NSA publishes a .....
>> thank you for the info
>>
>> 3. 135= RP.......
>> I already take care of them
>>
>> 4. Look into Tiny Firewal...
>> is it possible do it with w2k WITHOUT firewall box?
>>
>>
>> 5. You may have better luck starting your search from
>http://www.microsoft.com/security.
>
>7. There are cheap Firewall/Router products for Home use
>($150-$400 US). I
>may just clean up my unused pentum box and install linux to
>do the job. My
>point is
>
>"Is it possible do it within w2k WITHOUT firewall box?"
>
>Cannot believe w2k have no ability to disable and block
>certain port by
>itself...
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Hank Lee
>


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