>From my experience working with .msi's, that is usually the preferred
method.  I think that in some cases you can directly edit the .msi, but I
wouldn't put too much faith in it unless you have a programming background.
Was Wininstall LE used to craft the .msi file for the program?  One of the
things you need to consider also is that the way .msi's are created
typically from an executable is by doing some sort of pre- and post-setup
capture.  Sometimes the capture will include data that really shouldn't be
there, like certain registry keys, or critical system files.  My first
attempts to create an .msi file were with Acrobat Reader 5.0, and it took
the help of one of the consultants working with our company to figure out
what the problem was.  Chances are, you may need to work with a full-scale
.msi creator to do what you want.  There are lots out there, and not all of
them cost as much as Wise Package Studio.  Another question, are you looking
to push the app out via assignment, or via publishing?  If you are looking
at publishing, you may be able to save yourself a big headache and try
repackaging the app as a .zap file and publish it via GPO.  I never really
messed with publishing, because I was dealing with core apps that everyone
would get and I wanted to push them out via assignment, but it is still an
option.  

James Winzenz, MCSE, A+
Associate Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: W. Andy Roche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 3:31 PM
To: NT 2000 Discussions
Subject: RE: Creating Transform files

I have an application that my company develops.  They were using an .EXE
file to install it, and the repackage using the WinSTALL LE software was
working fine.  But when we switched to making a .MSI file instead, the delta
phase of the process started crashing, much to my lack of sleep.  Are we
looking at having to purchase a full scale product to be able to push this
.MSI to the desktops?  There are a few configuration questions that are
asked during the install, and I would rather not have them asked of the
end-user for rather obvious reasons.  According to my research so far, the
only to program the .MSI with information during install would be transform
files.  Is this correct?

W. Andy Roche
Systems Administrator
Performance Tuning Team
CSG Systems, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Http://www.CSGSystems.Com

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Winzenz
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 2:15 PM
To: NT 2000 Discussions
Subject: RE: Creating Transform files


What software are you trying to push out?  Anything office-related
(including Visio, Project, etc.) and you can download the Office Resource
Kit, which includes the custom installation wizard for creating transforms.
See http://www.microsoft.com/office/ork/2000/appndx/toolbox.htm#offsp2

Download the office resource kit core tool set.  Otherwise you may want to
look at 3rd party tools that will do this for you.  I just got to start
playing with Wise Package Studio (for a buttload of money!) and I absolutely
love it.  It includes an install tailor that will create a transform for
virtually any app out there with an .msi file.  Anyways, bottom line, more
info, what apps are you trying to push out via GPO?  And BTW, just a quick
word, if it is something like Office 2000 or office XP, Microsoft will
recommend against pushing it out via GPO if your company is larger than a
couple hundred employees (came straight from our Microsoft rep).  Anyways, I
have done a lot of testing with GPO and .msi's, as have others here, I'm
sure.  Provide more info, and I, for one, would be happy to share my
experiences with you.

James Winzenz, MCSE, A+
Associate Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.


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