At this point, the entire Commission is ready to try anything to get this to work. I can certainly bring it up and give it a try. Is this a documented problem somewhere? And why would it not occur on a Compaq system built using the same step-by-step procedures?
-----Original Message----- From: Morgan, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 9:25 AM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: Spontaneous Reboots on Dell w/Win2K with NO TRACE! Absolute Mystery! Can you go one night with file locking removed on one of the servers? Since I disabled file locking (thanks to Ed Esgro) I have not had any troubles This would be a sure fire test I would think Joshua Morgan PH: (864) 250-1350 Ext 133 Fax: (413) 581-4936 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Szlucha, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 9:22 AM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: Spontaneous Reboots on Dell w/Win2K with NO TRACE! Absolute M ystery! No memory dump file but the server is set to record one. We have set it to mini dump, and to full dump and we get nothing. We have seen the article to which you refer in your other message and we aren't running this version of Backup Exec, but we have passed this on to Dell since they have a closer relationship with Veritas, and Dell comes back stating that they have certified out version of Backup Exec already, since they are a reseller and recommend it for their systems. We do have a sneaky suspicion that Backup Exec may be the culprit, but I didn't want to poison the well by bringing this up to this forum until someone else did. We've had blinders put on ourselves too many times once we find something that even remotely looks like the culprit, and I didn't want to do that here. All great suggestions, folks! Keep 'em coming and maybe something new will crop up that will be the Golden Egg! (I'm keeping my fingers crossed!!) :) -----Original Message----- From: Morgan, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 9:13 AM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: Spontaneous Reboots on Dell w/Win2K with NO TRACE! Absolute M yste ry! In your C:\winnt directory do you have a Memory.dmp file? Joshua Morgan PH: (864) 250-1350 Ext 133 Fax: (413) 581-4936 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Szlucha, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 9:01 AM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: Spontaneous Reboots on Dell w/Win2K with NO TRACE! Absolute Myste ry! Ok, here is something that we've been working on that has gone all the way up to Michael Dell himself that I'd like some input on from you guys. Has anyone seen spontaneous reboots on Dell systems where there is absolutely no trace left anywhere in either the Windows environment nor the hardware environment (Dell ESM logs)? Dell's "top engineers" and 5 of us here at the SEC have been working on it for literally 3 months, almost every day, to no avail. Here's the configuration: Hardware: Dell 2550 Dual PIII 1133 Mhz (BIOS v A05) 2 GB RAM PERC 3 PCI RAID Controller 4 72 GB Fujitsu Hard Drives Intel 8255x-based Integrated Fast Ethernet NIC DRAC-II card External PowerVault 128T LTO Tape Library connected via Adaptec AIC-7899 PCI SCSI card Software: Windows 2000 Server w/ SP2 Terminal Services for remote admin Veritas Backup Exec v8.6 Remotely Anywhere Dell Server Agents as follows- Dell OpenManage Server Agent v. 4.3.0 (BLD_2922) DRAC-II Server Monitoring SNMP MIB Agent v. 2.0, Firmware v. 2.40 Dell OpenManage Array Manager v. 3.0 Network Associates NetShield 4.5, current engine and DATs Executive Software Network Undelete v. 2 WQuinn Associates Storage CeNTral v.4.1 build 461 We use these servers only for file and print serving with no other funny software installed and no "unnecessary" services running. All flash-able components have been flashed to the current level and drivers are up-to-date. And during the installation of Veritas Backup Exec, we have the Veritas drivers installed for the backup devices. These servers reboot at random and leave no trace in the event logs, nothing in the hardware logs about any hardware issues. There is no blue screen and no Dr. Watson events, no system dumps, literally NOTHING to trace this to anything or give us any indication as to where to start looking. We have picked apart our build process, which BTW works absolutely perfectly on a Compaq server, and Dell has even taken one of our rebooting systems back to their labs for analysis, again to no avail. The failure rate for us was somewhere around 75-80% on these machines. It seemed for a while to be hardware, as we could sometimes replace the motherboard and memory and have the systems work again. But then we had repeat performances of the reboots. Systems will reboot sometimes immediately, sometimes they run for a month and a half before rebooting. We have stress-tested these systems using 2 or 3 different stress test packages, and these reboots haven't replicated in the lab but once. This is a real head-scratcher. Any thoughts? And remember, the easy things have more than likely already been thought of and tried, but I'm willing to entertain any ideas (and so is Dell at this point). 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