But, it takes a much longer time. -----Original Message----- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 11:19 AM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: BackupExec and offsite storage vendors
Cant you just stick the tapes in a drive and re-catalog them with BE? I never save catalogs. I always recatalog when I do a restore anyhoo. -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Malayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:54 AM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: BackupExec and offsite storage vendors Because, in the event of a disaster which would require my tapes, that catalog/database at my site could be destroyed as well. -----Original Message----- From: Wes Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:07 AM Posted To: Windows NT/2000 List Conversation: BackupExec and offsite storage vendors Subject: RE: BackupExec and offsite storage vendors Your first idea seems like a possibility. But why not just keep your own catalogs and tell them what tape you want. Why pay someone else to house it for you? -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Malayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 5:53 PM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: BackupExec and offsite storage vendors I was thinking of some method of transmitting the catalog electronically. For example, with Iron Mountain you can supposedly attach notes, change disposal dates, view location information, etc. for any of your tapes right from their website. It would seem like a good extension that you could upload a file catalog for the tape there as well (assuming there was a reliable way to export it from your very popular backup software). Sounds like a job for one of the standard XML schemas. Another thought is the memory-in-cartridge that many new tape formats (LTO, AIT) that include a file directory on the cartridge to speed restore. There are external readers available for these, used mostly for HSM applications. Couldn't an offsite storage vendor do something with that? Now I'm really just dreaming... -----Original Message----- From: Wes Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 4:47 PM Posted To: Windows NT/2000 List Conversation: BackupExec and offsite storage vendors Subject: RE: BackupExec and offsite storage vendors Catalog files can be several MB's in size. I have seen catalog files fill up GB's of data in just a couple months time. Think about unboxing every tape, loading it, waiting for it to catalog, taking it out, putting it back in the box, and then filing it. Then I have to make sure I have all of the popular tape drives and I would also want Veritas and CA (yuck), maybe Legato and Ultrabac and CommVault. Updates of those software and hardware, while maintaining backwards compatibility. I just think it is way to specialized for someone to take up without it being very expensive. -----Original Message----- From: Elkins.Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:59 PM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: BackupExec and offsite storage vendors I think that Ryan is just looking for the vendor to catalog the tapes this would just take a relatively small log file. They vender would have time involved in cataloging. Am I wrong on this. -----Original Message----- From: Wes Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:46 PM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: BackupExec and offsite storage vendors I would think that would be prohibitively expensive as it would be labor intensive and require massive amounts of storage. -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Malayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:17 PM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: BackupExec and offsite storage vendors Does anyone know of an offsite storage vendor that will take a BackupExec (or other backup software) catalog and store it in their tape-management database? In a way that you could know the exact contents of a tape before calling it out of storage? Our current provider is all paper-based. We were looking at Iron Mountain, which has some web-based tape management, but they don't offer a cataloging service. (Their no-tape, backup over-the-internet LiveVault service does offer such features, but WOW was it expensive and bandwidth intensive). Am I totally dreaming thinking that someone might offer this feature? :::Ryan Malayter :::Network Engineer :::Bank Administration Institute :::Chicago, Illinois, USA :::PGP Key: http://www.malayter.com/pgp-public.txt ------ You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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