Take it.  Learn it.  Put it on your resume.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Levis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 11:42 AM
To: NT 2000 Discussions
Subject: RE: Basic SAN question


Well we will have a small number of connected servers, but huge amounts of
data (small number of large files).  So we'll be creating a minimum number
of high-capacity LUNs for a couple file servers.

I originally tried the DAS or lots-of-scsi-in-a-Dell argument on the boss,
but he's really got a boner for a SAN  =)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wes Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:27 PM
> To: NT 2000 Discussions
> Subject: RE: Basic SAN question
> 
> 
> I am not familiar with a Compaq solution (we use EMC), but
> they may have an optimizer or some way of identifying hot 
> spots on disks and moving the data around to eliminate or 
> minimize contention.  
> 
> We took the approach of dividing up the partitions on the
> disks to small sizes to allow us more spindles on each LUN.  
> This helps to improve performance and allows for more 
> granular use of the disks. 
> 
> Example if you go with 50 GB partitions the smallest portion
> you can increase by is 50 Gb we use 9 GB so that we can set 
> up on 9 GB partitions.
> 
> Just another opinion.  Take it as you will.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Levis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 10:27 AM
> To: NT 2000 Discussions
> Subject: RE: Basic SAN question
> 
> 
> Thanks for the warning.
> 
> I do plan on minimizing the number of LUNs, but my boss asked
> the question and I wanted to be sure to have the /right/ 
> answer instead of the /right-now/ answer.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 7:51 AM
> > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Basic SAN question
> > 
> > 
> > Chris,
> > 
> > Most vendors will allow you to slice and dice a SAN array
> into as many
> > LUNs of whatever size you want. Its absolutely the wrong
> thing to do,
> > but it certainly can be done.
> > 
> > Any time a phisical platter is partitioned, you're going to take a
> > performance hit - simply put, the heads can't be in two places at 
> > once, so if two systems are trying to access data which is 
> physically
> > on the same platter, but logically on different LUNs, there is head
> > contention, and one of the two must wait for the other to finish 
> > "using" the heads, and then pay the additional price of a head seek 
> > across the platter to its assigned set of cylinders.
> > 
> > In the case of your single 500GB RAID5 set in your SAN being split
> > into 300/100/50/50, you have in reality created 4 
> partitions on each
> > spindle, with 60%/20%/10%/10% split on each spindle. With a large
> > number of platters, and larger stripe sizes, its theoretically 
> > possible to reduce the chances of contention within the SAN, but 
> > realistically speaking, chances are there is going to be some 
> > contention, and therefore some performance hits associated with 
> > managing your disks this way.
> > 
> > Its one of the lies^H^H^H^H omissions commonly done in the sales
> > pitches of the big storage vendors.
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> > Atlanta, GA
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chris Levis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:07 PM
> > > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > > Subject: Basic SAN question
> > > 
> > > 
> > > If you have a RAID-5 array of (let's say) 500GB, can you
> create LUNs
> > > of an arbitrary size to be presented to the servers?
> E.g, a 300GB,
> > > a 100GB, and
> > > two 50GB?   Or is there a convention that all LUNs have to be 
> > > a uniform
> > > size?
> > > 
> > > Thanks!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ___________________________
> > > Chris Levis
> > > Applied Geographics, Inc.
> > > 
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