Well, that's my plan.  This is a co-op position (still in school), so the
more he wants to do, the more I learn.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wes Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 8:56 AM
> To: NT 2000 Discussions
> Subject: RE: Basic SAN question
> 
> 
> 
> Take it.  Learn it.  Put it on your resume.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Levis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 11:42 AM
> To: NT 2000 Discussions
> Subject: RE: Basic SAN question
> 
> 
> Well we will have a small number of connected servers, but 
> huge amounts of data (small number of large files).  So we'll 
> be creating a minimum number of high-capacity LUNs for a 
> couple file servers.
> 
> I originally tried the DAS or lots-of-scsi-in-a-Dell argument 
> on the boss, but he's really got a boner for a SAN  =)
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wes Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:27 PM
> > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Basic SAN question
> > 
> > 
> > I am not familiar with a Compaq solution (we use EMC), but they may 
> > have an optimizer or some way of identifying hot spots on disks and 
> > moving the data around to eliminate or minimize contention.
> > 
> > We took the approach of dividing up the partitions on the disks to 
> > small sizes to allow us more spindles on each LUN.
> > This helps to improve performance and allows for more 
> > granular use of the disks. 
> > 
> > Example if you go with 50 GB partitions the smallest 
> portion you can 
> > increase by is 50 Gb we use 9 GB so that we can set up on 9 GB 
> > partitions.
> > 
> > Just another opinion.  Take it as you will.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Levis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 10:27 AM
> > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Basic SAN question
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for the warning.
> > 
> > I do plan on minimizing the number of LUNs, but my boss asked the 
> > question and I wanted to be sure to have the /right/ answer 
> instead of 
> > the /right-now/ answer.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 7:51 AM
> > > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Basic SAN question
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Chris,
> > > 
> > > Most vendors will allow you to slice and dice a SAN array
> > into as many
> > > LUNs of whatever size you want. Its absolutely the wrong
> > thing to do,
> > > but it certainly can be done.
> > > 
> > > Any time a phisical platter is partitioned, you're going 
> to take a 
> > > performance hit - simply put, the heads can't be in two places at 
> > > once, so if two systems are trying to access data which is
> > physically
> > > on the same platter, but logically on different LUNs, 
> there is head 
> > > contention, and one of the two must wait for the other to finish 
> > > "using" the heads, and then pay the additional price of a 
> head seek 
> > > across the platter to its assigned set of cylinders.
> > > 
> > > In the case of your single 500GB RAID5 set in your SAN 
> being split 
> > > into 300/100/50/50, you have in reality created 4
> > partitions on each
> > > spindle, with 60%/20%/10%/10% split on each spindle. With a large 
> > > number of platters, and larger stripe sizes, its theoretically 
> > > possible to reduce the chances of contention within the SAN, but 
> > > realistically speaking, chances are there is going to be some 
> > > contention, and therefore some performance hits associated with 
> > > managing your disks this way.
> > > 
> > > Its one of the lies^H^H^H^H omissions commonly done in the sales 
> > > pitches of the big storage vendors.
> > > 
> > > ------------------------------------------------------
> > > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> > > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> > > Atlanta, GA
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Chris Levis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:07 PM
> > > > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > > > Subject: Basic SAN question
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > If you have a RAID-5 array of (let's say) 500GB, can you
> > create LUNs
> > > > of an arbitrary size to be presented to the servers?
> > E.g, a 300GB,
> > > > a 100GB, and
> > > > two 50GB?   Or is there a convention that all LUNs have to be 
> > > > a uniform
> > > > size?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ___________________________
> > > > Chris Levis
> > > > Applied Geographics, Inc.
> > > > 
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