Yup - that's split DNS alright. And that's the way to go.

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Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:foleyg@;octech.edu] 
> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 9:21 AM
> To: NT 2000 Discussions
> Subject: RE: AD naming
> 
> 
> Thanks Roger.  I believe my DNS is split (if this is the 
> correct term).  I
> run DNS behind the firewall on the PDC to resolve locally.  I 
> do not send
> zone transfers through the firewall to the ISP.  If I want a 
> server to be
> available on the outside, they have to put an A record on their name
> servers.  The only problem I had with this was getting our public page
> (www.octech.edu) to resolve from the inside.  The ISP was able to work
> this out on their end.
> 
> > > If you want to keep the two independent (and it sounds like 
> > > you do), what's
> > > wrong with building the structure around 'octech.local' or 
> > > 'octech.prv'?
> > 
> > Plenty. That style of naming standard was the original 
> suggestion following
> > some of the JDP installs, prior to AD going gold. Since 
> that time, however,
> > it has been strongly suggested that you use valid, 
> registered domain names
> > for all AD work, specifically for guaranteed uniqueness.
> > 
> > I would suggest one of two things - 
> > 1) Using your external domain name internally, and 
> implement split DNS. This
> > is a little more complicated from the DNS perspective, but 
> isn't that hard.
> > 
> > 2) Acquire new domain name(s) from the registrar of your 
> choice, and use
> > those names for your AD infrastructure. This really is an 
> easy way to do it,
> > since there is no confusion for less DNS saavy admins, and 
> you don't end up
> > with long domain names.
> > 
> > I've done both, and both work well. In fact, I just 
> completed a migration
> > using the second format - we're now using 2 generic DNS 
> domains internally,
> > that have nothing to do with our company's public DNS presence.
> > 
> > Roger
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> > Atlanta, GA
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Steve Molkentin [mailto:themolk@;flc.qld.edu.au] 
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 6:56 PM
> > > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: AD naming
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Mr Foley (OK, making an assumption here),
> > > 
> > > Having your internal DNS structure = your Net structure has 
> > > it's benefits if
> > > you are trying to access 'stuff' inside your organisation 
> > > from the Net.
> > > 
> > > If you want to keep the two independent (and it sounds like 
> > > you do), what's
> > > wrong with building the structure around 'octech.local' or 
> > > 'octech.prv'?
> > > 
> > > I'm glad to be wrong or have misunderstood your 
> > > requirements... interesting
> > > to hear what other's think (and what you think).
> > > 
> > > themolk.
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:foleyg@;octech.edu]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, 9 October 2002 11:24 am
> > > > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > > > Subject: AD naming
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Sorry if this is a repeat, not sure if my last message got on 
> > > > the list.
> > > > I am creating a new root forest on a new domain controller 
> > > > that will be
> > > > the first server with AD running on our network.  I am 
> > > planning to use
> > > > ADMTv2 to migrate users and want to keep both domains running 
> > > > for awhile. 
> > > > Anyway, my question is this.  Should I use my registered DNS 
> > > > domain name
> > > > octech.edu for the forest root, or should I use something like
> > > > local.octech.edu or inside.octech.edu?  I run DNS on my PDC 
> > > now but I
> > > > don't send my ISP zone transfers (it's behind the firewall).  
> > > > They have a
> > > > list of all my servers that need outside access (email, 
> > > > public web page,
> > > > etc.) which they put in their name servers manually.
> > > > 
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