Windows 2000 & .Net mag had an interesting WMI script that would fire your
user's login script after establishing a RAS connection in this month's mag.

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Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Smith [mailto:adam.smith@;sageautomation.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 6:01 PM
> To: NT 2000 Discussions
> Subject: RE: Dialup Users
> 
> 
> Some responses to various questions:
> 
> > You don't have any HOSTS or LMHOSTS on any of these clients, 
> > do you? If the IP works but the UNC name doesn't, it must be 
> > a name resolution issue somewhere. 
> 
> The UNC name resolution works, but it's the visibility of the shares
> that's the problem.  Users can connect to \\SERVER, but can *only* see
> the Data share.  When they are looking at the box from an IP
> perspective, ie "NET VIEW \\192.168.0.2," they can see all the shares
> available.  The intention is for the users who are dialing up to have
> the same access they would if they were logging in normally.
> 
> What makes viewing the shares via IP any different?  Does it 
> go directly
> to the box and query the available shares, and bypass the 
> Domain Browser
> List completely?
> 
> The users computers do not have any HOSTS or LMHOSTS files.
>  
> > What OS are the RAS users using? 
> 
> Windows 2000/XP users.
> 
> > On NT based systems the user will actually have to do a 
> > 'CNTL+ALT+DEL' and choose log on with dial up networking.  
> 
> This may be an option -- Most users are used to logging on with cached
> credentials and then establishing a dial-up connection.
> 
> > Otherwise they never really get authenticated.  At least this 
> > is what I have seen.
> 
> But -- hold on a moment.  The user establishes a dial-up 
> connection to a
> remote network, gets ... partially (?) authenticated?  I don't
> understand exactly what you mean.  A user gets authenticated and that
> should be the end of it.
> 
> > Do these users have logon scripts, and 
> > if so do they run when connecting? What protocols are running 
> > on the clients? Do they have NetBEUI running?
> 
> TCP/IP is the only protocol running.  The users don't have 
> login scripts
> when they are connecting via Dial-Up connection.  The login 
> script WOULD
> run if they logged on using dial-up networking, however in these cases
> the login script has never been "tuned" to handle dial-up clients and
> there are certain portions of the script that could slow them 
> down (any
> included update deployments for example.)  If I decided to change this
> system I would need to configure the login script to compensate for
> Dial-Up users.
> 
> > The problem isn't RAS, it's a problem with browsing and how 
> > friggin braindead a protocol it is. Read up on the technical 
> > side of how browsing actually works, and you'll be surprised 
> > that it works at all. I know I am.
> 
> Here, here!  I am glad to see you're in agreement, Roger!  I 
> am aware of
> how network browsing works, in regards to the network's Domain Browser
> system, and I agree that it's pretty brain dead.  I'd agree too, that
> it's pretty poor.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Adam Smith, MCSE.
> Information Technology Officer
> SAGE Automation Ltd.
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