>>They will sell me a newer model. Initially, I read this as "They will SEND me a newer model."
But, since the rest of the post did not reflect that, I re-read it. Did you buy it from them directly or from a VAR? We had a similar issue occur with the NS100, and a VAR was working with us to get the 204s at a heavy discount, but we abandoned that effort when the scope of our project increased to include more firewalls (we obtained the 204s in addition to the 100s) Netscreen has promised us that they will provide better info about product lifecycles, as the NS100 was not quite 8 months old when they first made their announcement, and no mention of the 200 family had existed at that time. ASB http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:54 AM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: Firewall Recommendation Sure. They will sell me a newer model. Nice. My unit is one year old this week. When I bought it, they of course made no effort to let me know this thing would be gone shortly. The whole thing has just left a bad taste in my mouth. I have never gone through this with any quality network appliance before. Like I said before, its not like this thing is 4 years old, or was only a hundred dollars. I made a substantial purchase. -----Original Message----- From: Randall Yoo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:30 PM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: Firewall Recommendation Not to be making any excuses: NS10, being one of their very first products, can no longer support all of the features that their latest version of code requires. With appliances, you have to re-engineer them every so often and, therefore, you cannot keep them going forever - especially since they don't support memory or ASIC upgrades (it would kill their FIPS-Level-2 certification to allow the box to be tampered with). In any case, it still remains that you are unhappy and are in a bind. Have you tried contacting NS support about this? If so, what was their response? My experience with them has been that they'll either handle it or get the local sales team involved. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 10:36 AM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: Firewall Recommendation So lets say the model type is 2-3 years old. I still contend that it is BS that they drop software support for this so quickly. This isn't some $25 video card. This thing cost at least a couple of grand. -----Original Message----- From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 10:24 AM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: Firewall Recommendation They indicated that the NS10 was going the way of the dodo nearly a year ago, if I'm not mistaken. Too bad they won't upgrade you to an NS25, though. ASB http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 12:52 PM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: Firewall Recommendation I'm a little pissed at Netscreen right now. I have an NS10 that is about a year old. NS has recently released the 4.0 version of their software. Apparently they have decided not to update this model since it has discontinued it. That really sucks. I have an open software / service contract with them. It would appear that they are going to choose to discontinue software updates for discontinued models. Considering they disco models at the rate of about 1 a month, this could be a real problem down the road for a lot of folks. Sonicwall promises software upgrades for free, essentially forever. Even old PIX's can be updated with a little work. I will think twice before purchasing a NS again. It's a real shame, it's a killer product. But if you can keep the OS up to date on a FW, it will eventually become a boat anchor. -----Original Message----- From: Byron Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 9:48 AM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: Firewall Recommendation I've used a bunch of these. All have their strengths and weakness. 1. Netscreen 2. Sonicwall 3. Symantec's new VPN Appliance I really love what netscreen is doing with their systems. Support structure is still hashing out issues/practices, but these appliances smoke and are easy to set up/integrate. Hit me off-line if you want more info. Good luck -----Original Message----- From: Fanta, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 6:30 AM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: Firewall Recommendation How about a simpler or cheaper firewall/vpn solution. I don't have a lot of users. -----Original Message----- From: Ed Esgro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 7:08 AM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: Firewall Recommendation Go for it. It works great. I use it all the time to work on my systems remotely on the weekends. -----Original Message----- From: Johnny Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 2:52 PM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: Firewall Recommendation What do you guys think of it? I'm interested in setting up VPN so my users can access our network from home. J -----Original Message----- From: Ed Esgro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:33 AM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: Firewall Recommendation Yes -----Original Message----- From: Johnny Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 1:32 PM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: Firewall Recommendation Hi all, Does anyone know if PIX supports VPN? 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