On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 11:23:45AM +0200, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> On 4/11/2023 11:11 AM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote:
>
> > Hello Alan, my PATH is set to:
> >
> > PATH=/home/ce/context-install/bin:/home/ce/context-install/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin:/opt/texlive/2023/bin/x86_64-linux:$PATH;
> > export PATH
>
> what is that first path doing there
>
okay. Let's remove it. The second one wouldn't hurt it I guess, right?
and it's needed.
> > Do we actually need to list all kpsea variable here ?? fine
>
> doesn't hurt .. also because they can be set badly at the os level (you
> really don't want to knwo when has be encountered in the 20th century)
>
:)
> > Here are some of them, which are really irrelevant by the way, but just
> > adding info
> >
> > $ kpsewhich --var-value TEXMFROOT
> > /opt/texlive/2023
> > $ kpsewhich --var-value TEXMFDIST
> > /opt/texlive/2023/texmf-dist
> > $ kpsewhich --var-value TEXMFLOCAL
> > /opt/texlive/texmf-local
> >
> > Now let's take a peek inside the TeX Live infrastructure-only, shall
> > we? (just for additional info as TeX Live is ocnsidered one of the
> > many scripts out there, right? One is interested in the standalone in
> > the end)
> >
> > LICENSE.CTAN bin install-tl.log texmf-config
> > texmfcnf.lua
> > LICENSE.TL doc.html readme-html.dir texmf-dist tlpkg
> > README index.html readme-txt.dir texmf-var
> > README.usergroups install-tl release-texlive.txt texmf.cnf
>
> that si texlive, not standalone
>
> > that texmfcnf.lua only holds
> >
> > return {
> > content = {
> > variables = {
> > },
> > },
> > }
> >
> > which is useless
>
> and harmless (somethign old texlive)
>
> > so, no bueno. Not when the aim is to install a fully functional context
> > standalone
> >
> > Now let's take a peek instide and see the binaries
> >
> > afm2tfm etex kpsereadlink mf mtxrun.lua texluac
> > bibtex extractbb kpsestat mf-nowin pdfetex tlmgr
> > context fmtutil kpsewhich mft pdflatex tlshell
> > context.lua fmtutil-sys latex mkindex pdftex updmap
> > dvilualatex fmtutil-user luahbtex mktexfmt pktogf updmap-sys
> > dviluatex gftodvi lualatex mktexlsr pktype
> > updmap-user
> > dvipdfm gftopk luametatex mktexmf rungs xdvi
> > dvipdfmx gftype luaotfload-tool mktexpk simpdftex xdvi-xaw
> > dvipdft inimf luatex mktextfm tex xdvipdfmx
> > dvips initex makeindex mptopdf texhash
> > ebb kpseaccess man mtxrun texlua
> >
> > Do you see that context and context.lua out there, right? That's
> > only after running tlmgr and installing it, so no bueno, because in
> > the meantime there's no texmfcnf.lua around
>
> comes from the tex live base package ... harmless, just takes bytes (only
> luatex, luametatex, context, mtxrun, context.lua and mtxrun.lua matter)
>
> > Then again, remember in the current state I actually don't have
> > texmfcnf.lua for the simple reason that first-setup.sh never provided
> > it, correct?
>
> aditya pointer that out (and it's one of the files that one doesn't want to
> be overwritten anyway)
>
For clarification, Do you mean the file that consists of
-- the distributed file (.../texlive/YYYY/texmf-dist/web2c/texmfcnf.lua).
-- And include *only* your changed values, not a copy of the whole thing!
return {
content = {
variables = {
},
},
}
and belongs to TeX Live?
> > Here we go! Back to point A where we were at before
> as alan pointed out: just install with the lmtx installer in a path separate
> from tex live, set the path and you're done; don't try to mix texlive with a
> adapted of standalone, texlive has its own context package and updates etc;
> keep them separated
alright. That's fine. That's what I thought.
So copy over the mtxrun binary on texmf-linux-64/bin to context and call it a
day?
>
> Hans
>
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