Hi Wolfgang,

On Mon, 02 Jul 2018 00:58:44 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Idris,

you can enable the display of chapter numbers with the prefix-key:

\setupnotation
   [footnote]
   [prefix=yes,
   %prefixsegments=chapter,
    way=bychapter]

Many thanks for this. There is an unwanted side-effect: Let

marker    = main-text footnote marker
header    = numeral for footnote header
reference = reference numeral

The prefix appears in three places, e.g.,

marker    - II.1
header    - II.1
reference - II.1

but we only want the prefix in the reference, not anywhere else, e.g.,

marker    - 1
header    - 1
reference - II.1

The prefix in the main-text marker and in the footnote header are superfluous, e.g., the reader already knows which chapter one is reading. But to reference a footnote from a later chapter, a prefix is needed to let the reader know which chapter.

So the question is: Can the prefix be made to apply only to the reference and not the marker or notation header?

==============
Observation:

For endnotes at the end of a book having the prefix in the header is also useful, i.e.,

marker    - 1
header    - II.1
reference - II.1

So a general mechanism to set the prefix for each of the above three would be useful.

If not currently supported, would like to make this a feature request.
==============

Thank you again, Wolfgang.

Best wishes
Idris

Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد <mailto:idris.ha...@colostate.edu>
30. Juni 2018 um 23:04
Dear gang,

When referencing footnotes that reset each chapter, is there a way to
include the chapter information? See attached and below:

=======
\setuphead[chapter]   [alternative=normal,conversion=R]
\setuphead[subsection][alternative=text]
\setuphead[subsection][distance=0em,
                       textdistance=0.7em,
                       sectionstopper=.,
                       criterium=local]

\setupnotation[footnote][way=bychapter]

\setupreferencestructureprefix [section] [default]
                               [prefixstopper=\zerowidthspace]

\setupwhitespace[big]
\starttext

\startchapter[title={First},reference={}]
\startsubsection[title={},reference={reference1}]
\input ward
\startfootnote[footnote1]
\input ward
\stopfootnote{}

See \in{Footnote}[footnote2].
\stopsubsection
\startsubsection[title={},reference={reference2}]
\input ward
\stopsubsection
\stopchapter

\startchapter[title={Second}]
\startsubsection[title={},reference={reference3}]
\input ward
\stopsubsection
\startsubsection[title={},reference={reference5}]
\input ward
\startfootnote[footnote2]
\input ward
\stopfootnote{}

See \in{Footnote}[footnote1].
\stopsubsection
\stopchapter
\stoptext
=======

If line 8 is commented -
\setupnotation[footnote][way=bychapter]
- we get what we expect. But if line 8 is activated, we get an
ambiguity: Both references give back

 "Footnote 1"

Whereas what we would like is something like this:

 Footnote  I.1

i.e., Chapter I, Footnote 1 - for the first footnote; and

 Footnote II.1

i.e., Chapter II, Footnote 1 - for the second footnote.

Is there a straightforward way to do this?

[[Of course, for the roman chapter numbering we also run into the
reference-numberconversionset issue of the other thread, where

\definestructureconversionset[OLIE][n,R,n,n,n,n][n]
\setupreferencestructureprefix [section] [default]
                               [prefixstopper=\zerowidthspace,
                                numberconversionset=OLIE]

doesn't seem to work.]]

Thank you in advance for any guidance or pointers you can provide!

Best wishes
Idris



--
Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80512

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