Around the time of your original message there were mail server problems -
many users submissions got blocked.  IIRC Pisa blocked every ISP who had
ever had any user send spam to them.  I know they blocked AT&T and a bunch
of other big ones.  And they blocked based on the originating IP address, so
any customer of those ISPs, regardless of which mail server they used was
blocked.  After the problems were fixed, I resent the ~80 messages that were
lost - hence the lag.


There are a couple of FreeBSD users I know of - Stanley Hopcroft in OZ is
running 4.7, Rob Trout has a couple of boxes.  Tony Nelson has provided me
shell access in the past.   Let's see... Mustafa Baig responded to the first
message in this chain about .deps.  Others who've emailed the list WRT
FreeBSD the last two months include Tim Gardner, Jean Hernandez, Mark Cole
(runs 3.5.1 -- poor SOB), and Alvaro Pietrobono.

I built piglet, a FreeBSD4.7 box this weekend for testing on this problem.
I'm going to move that to 5.0 next.  I run FreeBSD 4.6.3 on Tigger as one of
the 6 OSes I use for ntop development - and FreeBSD is the only one I
regularly test under.


I've just committed a trap for the .deps problem and added docs/FAQ entries
for it.

But realistically, it's a FreeBSD port problem - they're still distributing
the 1.5 version of automake, which was released a long, long, time ago.

Index of ftp.gnu.org/gnu/automake  (lightly edited):

 automake-1.5.tar.gz   515 KB   2001-08-23 02:50:28 PM
 automake-1.6.tar.gz   575 KB   2002-03-06 03:30:48 PM
 automake-1.6.1.tar.gz 582 KB   2002-04-11 09:42:08 AM
 automake-1.6.2.tar.gz 593 KB   2002-06-14 08:07:53 AM
 automake-1.6.3.tar.gz 596 KB   2002-07-28 06:46:43 PM
 automake-1.7.tar.gz   642 KB   2002-09-25 10:19:42 PM
 automake-1.7.1.tar.gz 648 KB   2002-10-19 04:09:02 AM
 automake-1.7.2.tar.gz 662 KB   2002-12-05 10:37:55 PM

I realize that there are issues with auto* tool versions - check the back
traffic for some of my rants about them, especially the incompatibilities
'tween 1.6 and 1.7 (or 1.4 and 1.5 or 1.5 and 1.6 for that matter).

Still, the problem is not ntop's - we clearly indicate our dependency on
1.6.  If people bothered to READ the output from ./configure, the error
message that occurs during the depcomp copy is clearly in there -- even
without the trap I just put.  With the trap, well, ./configure will stop and
they can't ignore it.

As to why there aren't a lot of posts?  My guesses

1) People are happy with the old version of ntop in the FreeBSD ports.
Which, BTW is ntop-2.0.99-rc2.tgz, i.e. a release candidate for ntop 2.1 -
they really should be updated to 2.1.3 for a LOT of reasons.

or

2) Since the problem was only exposed if you executed automake and that
happened only if you didn't have depcomp, I'm guessing that they just keep
reusing the same directory.  If you download and untar into the same
directory (e.g. ntop-current), then it updates the various files (giving you
the 1.6.3 generated files) and since you already depcomp, it doesn't remake
them... so no .deps problem!


-----Burton



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of E.
Farah
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Ntop] FreeBSD (et al) and the .deps problem



Burton,

This is the sort of thing that I was hoping not to get into. No I am not
owed an answer, and I know this is a free list. I was just hoping to intiate
an interesting discussion around Ntop that would benefit other users, not
just myself.

Thanks for your reply regarding TCPUDMP, I did not see it since it was sent
2 weeks after I post it.

I know a lot of FreeBSD users run Ntop. I am surprised there's not too many
post around it.

I am only receiving the daily digests now that's why I don't have the
original message, but I will change that.

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