Well, there-in lies the problem.
A) I didn't know to search the faq for an "-S" option. How would I? I did search for mysql and I did see the "depricated..." and to "use rrd". And in the admin section of my NTOP URL I saw the plugins, one of which was an rrd plugin which I turned on and I see some very mrtg-like graphs now. However, I still was losing data after a reboot. Now that I've read your emails, I see *why* data is lost after a reboot crash. That makes perfect sense. Perhaps that explanation should be a bit more prominently in the FAQ if this is such an oft asked question. A note on www.ntop.org saying "docs are out-dated, read the whole FAQ before posting questions" would be helpful as a starting point for the uninitiated.
B) As to this email, I see our difference. I don't normally read FAQs because they're usually geared at novices. I usually start with READMEs, INSTALLs, or HOWTOs. Hence, I was searching on google for "ntop howto" and "ntop how-to", not "ntop faq". Thank you for the pointer.
C) For what its worth, and despite my documentation complaining, ntop is working quite well for me now. Thank you for a solid software. I will be contributing RH EL 3 and Fedora Core 2 HOWTOs in the next few weeks.
AD
Burton M. Strauss III wrote:
<sigh> People really should learn to use google. </sigh>
A search for 'ntop faq' finds my HMTLized copy as the first hit.
Can't search the archives? I usually recommend gmane (www.gmane.org), but that site may having index problems - however an email to Lars (which I've just sent) has always fixed things quickly in the past.
Google:
mySQL site:listgateway.unipi.it
(You can further use the advanced search page to restrict it to the last 6 months)
Let's see ... other than five or six answers to your question, there's this:
http://listgateway.unipi.it/pipermail/ntop/2004-June/008373.html "[Ntop] collecting traffic info on an sql server", a set of scripts to collect the ntop data into a sql database that a user was kind enough to post.
-----Burton
-----Original Message----- From: Andrew Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 10:30 AM To: Burton M. Strauss III Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Ntop] A couple a basic NTOP questions
You know, I can't count the number of lists where people reply with "read the docs". Funny, cause I always read them (if I can find them) before I post to a list. It was only *after* searching all over ntop.org and via google that I found some very dated (ver 2.x) info, but was able to get ntop up and running. What I was wondering about was storing the data... why it appeared to be lost after a reboot and if storing it in mysql was the only option. Of course, typical to most lists, no one can just "say, you can configure it to store the data, but you need mysql" or "no, you can't... a mysql db is the only". Had I received an answer like that, I could move on and know what direction to go. Instead, I'm told to read the docs (which I already have... those I could find anyway), that the docs are old and outdated (???), and to search the archives (which I have, but if any of you notice, when you go the page with the archives, there's no search option and heck if I want to download all the files, unpack them all, and then search them all). I wasn't asking for my hand to be held. I was asking a general question so I know which path to go down as I move forward, but as with most lists I got the typical RTFM, though in this case, with a follow-up that says, "oh, and TFM is out-dated".
AD
Burton M. Strauss III wrote:
Read the discussion in docs/FAQ on this topic and look over the
back traffic
on this list. Heck, the same question was asked within the
last 48 hours.
Oh, and be sure to read the CURRENT docs, not some old crud you found on www.ntop.org.
-----Burton
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew Davis Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 6:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Ntop] A couple a basic NTOP questions
I have NTOP installed and seemingly working just fine. I found a generic "how-to" a bit difficult to find... at least for any current Linux distro's, but nonetheless, I think I have it working.
My main question is regarding keeping data after a reboot. It *appears* that once I reboot the server running NTOP and restart NTOP, the previously collected data is lost. Is there a simple way of storing it? I noticed in a doc somewhere that its *possible* to store it in a mysql DB. Is this the only choice? Are there any instructions on setting this up? I'm very interested in trending over time, but the server NTOP runs on will need to be rebooted on occasion.
Thanks in advance, -- Andrew Davis North County Computers http://www.nccomp.com
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